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Relative Speeds, Boot Camp vs Parrellels

Paul Caldwell

New member
I originally stayed away from Parrallels based on my experience with "Virtual PC", the older virtual environment for Windows with mac.

What are people seeing as far as processing speeds.

I was reading over the installation manual and I saw that you obviously can't give all your ram to the XP environment (Virtual) with Parrallels. I guess you could go to around 1.5GB max without harming the mac environment.

I also saw that Apple is now touting Parrallels on their main site.

Thanks
Paul c.
 

Stan Jirman

New member
Paul Caldwell said:
I was reading over the installation manual and I saw that you obviously can't give all your ram to the XP environment (Virtual) with Parrallels. I guess you could go to around 1.5GB max without harming the mac environment.

That depends what you mean by "hurting". My normal workflow requires a number of memory hungry apps, and even with my 4GB RAM I am still paging (more is on the way). If you then give Parallels 1.5Gs, you've lost pretty much half of it.

Not to mention of course the slight problem that even the newest pre-release requires that you have at most 3.5GB RAM in your machine, which is pretty hillarious given that there aren't any 256M chips for the MacPro (to give you a 512M ending figure). So I'd have to remove RAM out of my machine (or use a boot option to virtually strip it) just so that I can run yet another ravenous app? I don't think so.

They need to put their act together, or hopefully VMWare will kick their butt when they come out with theirs. Thankfully I don't really need to run Windows, and for the little bit that I do I have VirtPC on my Powerbook, or XP (native) on my MacPro.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Stan,

Explain XP running Native? How does that work? I have a number of G4 Powerbooks but haven't upgraded yet.

(I know 2 weeks after I do, Apple will double hte capability of their PB Pro line!

Asher
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Asher Kelman said:
Stan,

Explain XP running Native? How does that work? ..
I assume Stan was referring to running XP on a Mac by means of Boot Camp (which is a dual-boot scheme) whereby only XP is running on the machine (i.e. no virtual machines involved).
I'm sure Stan will correct me if I'm wrong <smile>

Cheers,

Cem
 

Stan Jirman

New member
Cem Usakligil said:
I assume Stan was referring to running XP on a Mac by means of Boot Camp (which is a dual-boot scheme) whereby only XP is running on the machine (i.e. no virtual machines involved).
I'm sure Stan will correct me if I'm wrong <smile>

Yup, that's exactly correct. Strictly speaking you don't need boot camp if you know your way with Unix utilities (that's how I have 4 boot partitions on my MP, where XP is just one of them). Boot Camp just adds convenience and some drivers which to a good part you could get elsewhere, too, or which you don't absolutely need.
 

Paul Caldwell

New member
Parrellels

Stan, then as the ram requirement is 3.5 GB, a Macbook pro is out of the question anyway? As you can only get up to 2GB on that. I missed the ram requirement.

Paul
 

Stan Jirman

New member
You missed the point: 3.5GB is the *MAXIMUM*. As such, you have no problems with a MB(P), but I have problems with my 4GB+ MacPro.
 
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