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Just for Fun No C&C will be given: Young Lady Paradigm

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Yes, I know the title could be another one, mostly about adjectives, and I have repeated the word "paradigm". However, She is The Paradigm of Young Ladies.

Critiques, comments or just omitions are welcomed.

This was one of the 84 shots I did of this Young Lady of 15 years old. I have talked with her a lot. She is a South Korean Angel. It's just a shot for a "15 years old" book that will be looked at, then stored, then looked at again and stored again, 'till death.

As the time pass by, the picture will become a coffin with her sublime beauty frozen for ever.

Natural Light.
Almost Posing.


YoungLadyParadigm.jpg


Have a nice day.

Leo.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi Leo,

This is a special picture that does have a call to return to it. I will, bide my time for writing. That way, I'll learn more!

Asher
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Hi Leo,

This is a special picture that does have a call to return to it. I will, bide my time for writing. That way, I'll learn more!

Asher

Hi Asher, no problem :) I'm quite busy as well... Taking pictures of "paintings", making a catalog for some artists from my state and keep working as retoucher for US, you now. At this stage of the month, I have tons of things to do. She's also very special, but very special too :) You already know in the PM.

See you later, Asher :)

Leo :)
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi Asher, no problem :) I'm quite busy as well... Taking pictures of "paintings", making a catalog for some artists from my state and keep working as retoucher for US, you now. At this stage of the month, I have tons of things to do. She's also very special, but very special too :) You already know in the PM.
Hi Leo,

You misunderstand me. I could have written much more immediately. I am interested, have thought a lot about it and examined your image carefully. However, others need to give there opinions first!

Asher :)
 

Rachel Foster

New member
OK, I hesitate to wade in on this one. There are aspects I love and things I'd like to see done differently. For example, I'd like a tighter crop; on my screen it looks a touch overly bright on my screen (but who knows if that's my screen or not); focus on the flowers seems a bit soft; and the lighting on the shoulders seems a touch burned.

On the flip side, the expression and pose are exquisite.



So, those are my impressions (and it must be remembered my critiques are part of my learning curve).
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Hi Leo,

You misunderstand me. I could have written much more immediately. I am interested, have thought a lot about it and examined your image carefully. However, others need to give there opinions first!

Asher :)

Ah... Got it... I knew you will comment something more, you've said that in your first comment. However, I thought you were too busy. I'm, indeed. I have finished my day today, making the pics for the painters and 1 set of retouchs. I have to finish tomorrow the last one and start with the ones for the next month, I will be around here, no doubts, but just sneaking or leaving some comment. In a couple of weeks I will be more relaxed, and after that, much more relaxed and again, in 4 weeks from now, I will be very busy again! =D
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
OK, I hesitate to wade in on this one. There are aspects I love and things I'd like to see done differently. For example, I'd like a tighter crop; on my screen it looks a touch overly bright on my screen (but who knows if that's my screen or not); focus on the flowers seems a bit soft; and the lighting on the shoulders seems a touch burned.

On the flip side, the expression and pose are exquisite.



So, those are my impressions (and it must be remembered my critiques are part of my learning curve).

No problem! Critiques are always welcomed, they're part of my learning curve as well. I like that expression :)

Well... I have calibrated my monitor with EyeOne like 4 months ago. I don't have the device, I have a friend who has the photocolorimeter. I don't have money to buy one, and it's only available in Buenos Aires, that's 700 Km from my state (like 434,96 miles away), so I have to ask him for the device in order to check my monitor again. It's an Apple Cinema Display. This monitor is great, I have never had something so pro on my desk, just an LCD of 220 usd till few months ago, when I bought this Apple Screen. I'm quite annoyed because it has an stuck pixel, in fact, a green sub pixel and they warranty doesn't cover it :( I have spent too much for an stuck pixel! Anyway, the picture also looks more blurry than it's, I think Photobucket has enlarged the pic and interpolated its pixels, however, the flower is out of focus. I think I have used f/1.4 or f/1.8 for this portrait, no more than that and highlights tends to burn with wide apertures. Therefore, there is detail in those shinny shoulders but they get a bit mixed with the background, now I notice it, it's a bit annoying for the eye. However, it was my first work, and I haven't planned anything, as usual. I like watching what the place offers and improvisating. I really don't like people posing, I like natural things when shoting women and young ladies, that's why I try to distract the subject and shot when I consider it proper and that way I always will comitt some little mistakes. However, as I have told to Mahim, I just have 4 years taking pictures and now I'm learning something absolutely new for me and about myself, therefore, my pictures :)

For example, this album for the 15 years young lady have been shot at my way. I don't like shooting the way it should known as correct. I don't like happy faces looking at the camera, you can see a subtle sadness in this picture, blended with a subtle happiness... Her expression is magical. Some of the other photos are quite sad, she's looking at something, not the camera, may be she's looking her hands, she is shy and I like shyness, so I portrayed her shyness covered with a subtle sad emotion, the perfect picture from my point of feel.

many months ago, I have written: "The lens are my eyes, the shutter is my mind and the senor is my heart"; "The camera is not what we hold with our hands, but on our shoulders". We must be able to shot with our selves, I say right now. What's the camera? Nothing compared with our feelings. Sometimes we're lazy, and we expect the camera do the stuff, however, camera will never be an extension of our body.
I feel we transmit something to the subject, we don't need to even talk to transmit something to our subject. We are like antennas. It's a momment between you and the subject, a fraction where you and the subject agreed about something. It's something spiritual, beyond the camera/body, it's a connection from heart to hearth and hard to get, because the feeling is hidden, we hide our feelings all the time. I talk with the subject, if interesting, for long minutes. It's a "photo session", it's allowed to talk and express who I am and to find who is the subject I have to portray. I used to portray young laidies at the center town, it's hard to get their trust, but if you're transparent, if you express all what you want to portray, you can make it. I have some pics I have taken to a young lady I met in the bus, another I met in some square, other I met while walking around, I have portrayed many young ladies by walking around. I'm transparent, so I'm free :)
 

Jim Galli

Member
Leo,

I want to like it, the little girl is perfect. The bokeh with digital cameras and normal, even fast normal lenses is awful. A 200mm f2.8 or 300mm f4 perhaps would work for the effect. The soft colors are perfect for good out of focus. Your lens didn't get the job done.
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Leo,

I want to like it, the little girl is perfect. The bokeh with digital cameras and normal, even fast normal lenses is awful. A 200mm f2.8 or 300mm f4 perhaps would work for the effect. The soft colors are perfect for good out of focus. Your lens didn't get the job done.

Yeah, I know, but that was the only lens at the momment. Now I have a couple of lenses, and I'm going for the 85mm f/1.4, but I also need a faster PC which will allow me to retouch big fashion pictures, therefore, buying more equipment :)
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
It never ends!

Well, it ends when not having enough money ^^ In fact, I'm in red numbers. I don't need so much, just a cuple of flashes and umbrellas (for prducts/paintings shots), and a 85 f/1.4 lens. I already have a 50mm, a 14-24 and a 80-400. And I also need a powerful PC, mine is about 5 years old obsolete for high-end retouch, where I'm pointing. Ah, I also need money to develop my pictures and make some exhibition ^^ After that, all is done and I can shot my head LOL!!!!
 

Alain Briot

pro member
Expression is great.

Out of focus background is very pictural.

Top right corner and top middle right areas are too bright.

Flowers are blurry.

Color balance is off
 
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Leo,

For this color image, I do like the extra strength of the b.g. in Alain's edit, but the young lady I'd prefer as originally presented. I like this sort of examination of presentation.

Asher
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Leo,

For this color image, I do like the extra strength of the b.g. in Alain's edit, but the young lady I'd prefer as originally presented. I like this sort of examination of presentation.

Asher

Well... I don't know why, but really like the blown highlights at the background. It's like fading the subject with the background instead standing her out from the background. I found it more ethereal that way, like some kind of dream, or some slightly and gentle death.

Leo :)
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Leo,

For color, I'd say go with the changes in the b.g. only suggested by Alain. But, your aim is now articulated differently.

You are then correct, for the feeling of "ethereal", for that, the background is most effective when it has less substance to it. Now there's the essential part I've been holding off approaching, until now.

This picture, to me at least, is about an impression that comes from where we are not sure, perhaps from the unusual light, or the clouds or just she's part of a dream. Here we can escape a lot of dependencies of reality by removing the veil of color. Then we discover the commonality of tones of one material, spread across the pictures and taking form most definitely in her, just in her!

I saw this immediately. You approached this by making her form undersaturated and the background hardly there. I'll leave that for you to consider, making that version in black and white. I have seen it in B&W and feel she's presented most effectively and memorably that way.

Asher
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
Leo,

For color, I'd say go with the changes in the b.g. only suggested by Alain. But, your aim is now articulated differently.

You are then correct, for the feeling of "ethereal", for that, the background is most effective when it has less substance to it. Now there's the essential part I've been holding off approaching, until now.

This picture, to me at least, is about an impression that comes from where we are not sure, perhaps from the unusual light, or the clouds or just she's part of a dream. Here we can escape a lot of dependencies of reality by removing the veil of color. Then we discover the commonality of tones of one material, spread across the pictures and taking form most definitely in her, just in her!

I saw this immediately. You approached this by making her form undersaturated and the background hardly there. I'll leave that for you to consider, making that version in black and white. I have seen it in B&W and feel she's presented most effectively and memorably that way.

Asher

Mmmhhh... Now I see this pic I think it's not so good as I thought, specailly the out of focus and the white areas need to be more harmonized with the bright skin tones but somehow, I like it and still perceive the pefume of that magical day :)
 

Leonardo Boher

pro member
yeah, I did some adjustments in sepia... you knocked the right door, Asher.

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HEre is the link just in case I pasted the wrong html code (canot figure how's that thing in flickr).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/3793948621_c7596314f7_o.jpg

[EDIT by NC] paste the above url between the
tags, or paste it after clicking on the
insertimage.gif
icon.
Your html code has nothing to do for such posting! shouldn't start with <a href= and should finish with .jpg or .gif or .png (to avoid, too 'heavy" format) [/EDIT]

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