James Lemon
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AsherRes ipsa loquitor!
The left will fail miserably with their futile attempts to convince the masses into believing a bunch of fabricated facts. Much the same way that they failed in your last election.
James
AsherRes ipsa loquitor!
Asher
The left will fail miserably with their futile attempts to convince the masses into believing a bunch of fabricated facts. Much the same way that they failed in your last election.
James
Thanks, Jerome,
Of course I feel guilty for taking energy away from pictures. But to follow your comment, today we have to very serious mass shootings, (at a practice match for a charity baseball game, Republicans v Democrats in Washington DC, and just now a UPS office in San Francisco). Still it is unlikely to persuade lawmakers that gun purchases should require background checks, mental competence and safety training and follow up certifications.
Believing in loose gun laws is akin to the right to believe in the Buddha, Jesus, Trump, Le Pen or Katl Marx!
Mostly only death, natural
or otherwise, ends such belief!
Asher
Alcohol and prescription drugs kill 566% more people than guns do.
James
Let's assume that is true.
So one justifies the other?
That is denial?[/QUOT
Asher
Simply stating an observation is not denial. Yet every time someone is killed by someone with a gun it's all over MSM. Although the deaths from alcohol and prescription drugs far exceed the deaths of people killed by guns it doesn't get much attention. One has to wonder why it's not on the top of the left wings laundry list.
James
When we talk about alcohol, we can discuss that issue, same with drugs. Each of these had no bearing on the deaths due to gun crime and accidents.
There is no justification for opposing background checks or refusal to sell to mentally ill people or those with social media record of hate-mongering against minorities. Also there is no justification to allowing folk to own a gun without minimal safety training!
It can't be that 100% of folk who want to own weapons should be permitted to do so. Just like driving a motorbike, we want safety and anyone can train and apply.
Asher
It follows that it is normally impossible to make people in denial change their opinion by logic alone, that is by having a courteous conversation about the subject, whatever the subject happens to be. It simply will not work. In the best case, the conversation will run in circles. In the worst case, aggression may occur.
Since the theme of this thread is denial and since we seem to have departed from photography, I would like to remind the participants of an unfortunate characteristic of denial. People will only develop denial for issues to which they are very strongly attached. That is simple logic: it takes a compelling force for someone to start to negate reality. The consequence is people in denial would first need to break that strong emotional attachment to change their opinion about what they deny.
It follows that it is normally impossible to make people in denial change their opinion by logic alone, that is by having a courteous conversation about the subject, whatever the subject happens to be. It simply will not work. In the best case, the conversation will run in circles. In the worst case, aggression may occur.
Hi, Jerome,
Well said.
Best regards,
Doug
Jerome,Doug
I don't cling to any principles I just make it up as I go.
James