Doug Kerr
Well-known member
Some years ago, I went to a Best Buy store to see a Canon EOS Digital Rebel (300D). All the pundits were saying that Canon's introduction of a serious dSLR under $1000.00 would, instantly, make all other digital cameras irrelevant. I rejected this notion. I told Carla that we needed to veer on our trajectory to actually look at the great silver hope.
She handled the display model a bit, and really enjoyed the fast response. (We had been using a spiffy EVF camera, a Fuji S602. But it has some real speed of response problems, partly due to EVF latency.) At lunch, she said, "I think we should go back and buy that Canon - it's what we need for the rodeo outing of my Red Hat Society chapter tomorrow."
Thus began our long and complicated interaction with The Mind of Canon. The first Great Mystery was Evaluative metering.
The generally accepted explanation was that it uses some kind of intelligent algorithm to determine the appropriate exposure, and that the algorithm "placed emphasis" on . . .
Now, here, you had your choice of several expressions to complete the sentence (I will state them more precisely than we usually heard them):
a. [the metering segment at] the active AF point (based on the notion that only one was "active" even though several might be "lit").
b. [the metering segments at] all the active AF points (based on the notion that all the "lit" AF points were "active").
c. [the metering segments at and surrounding] the Active AF point.
d. [the metering segments at and surrounding] all the active AF points .
I myself subscribed to interpretation "d".
Now just recently I found out (from Chuck Westfall of Canon USA, in a discussion thread on the ProPhoto Home forum) that only one AF point is ever "active"; that one controls the AF, and the other lit ones are only showing that they have the same opinion of subject distance. (And we are never told which is the really active one.)
And whatever it is that Evaluative metering does "at" the active AF point, it only does it at the "really active" one, not at the "me toos".
I already linked here to this disclosure.
But this still leaves the question, OK, what does Evaluative metering do that is special with the metering segment at the "active" AF point, or at the segments at and surrounding the "active" AF point (and which of those is it)? What is "emphasis", anyway?
Today Chuck Westfall (in a prolongation of that same thread) gave an explanation that is the best I have heard in all my years of Canon fancy:
By way of introduction, I had (by way of provocation!) asked whether one of two views of the matter were correct. He said, in effect, well, not really either, and then proceeded (I will bold what I consider key passages):
Doug:
Perhaps a better way of expressing the issue is as follows:
1. Evaluative metering reads all segments of the metering sensor.
2. Primary emphasis is placed on the metering segment overlaying the active focusing point, or the center focusing point when the camera is set for manual focusing.
3. Secondary emphasis is placed on the metering segments directly adjacent to the primary metering segment.
4. Tertiary emphasis is placed on all other metering segments.
Evaluative metering uses a variety of algorithms to determine if there is a need to apply exposure compensation to the reading obtained at the primary segment. The algorithms are proprietary and confidential for competitive reasons, but we know that they look at various factors including overall light level, backlighting, spotlighting, and an estimate of relative subject size, as revealed by a comparison of brightness values for each metering segment. They may look at other available data as well, but if so we're not sure exactly what that data may be or how it is used. We know that there are limits on the maximum possible range and gradation of exposure compensation steps that evaluative metering can apply, and we know that the specifications for these factors vary somewhat according to the camera model in question, but we do not know the exact specifications for either.
That's just about as much technical info as I can provide on this topic.
Chuck Westfall
Technical Advisor/Professional Products Mktg. Div.
Consumer Imaging Group/Canon U.S.A., Inc.
So, the truth is:
•The basic exposure measurement is based on the metering segment at the (always single) active AF point (in manual and some other modes, that is always the center one).
•This may then be adjusted ("exposure compensation", a phrase we did not formerly hear in connection with Evaluative metering) based on an intelligent analysis of the metering segments surrounding the active AF point, and (further down the priority chain) all the other metering segments.
•The scope of the subject is not estimated from the cluster of "lit" AF points (as I used to believe, thus my belief in interpretation "d" above), but rather based on an evaluation of the brightness profile.
So, while there is still a lot that we don't know about evaluative metering, I am today gigantically more comfortable with my understanding of it.
Thanks so much to Chuck Westfall in bringing this to a good conclusion. And my ass is worn out from fishing.
She handled the display model a bit, and really enjoyed the fast response. (We had been using a spiffy EVF camera, a Fuji S602. But it has some real speed of response problems, partly due to EVF latency.) At lunch, she said, "I think we should go back and buy that Canon - it's what we need for the rodeo outing of my Red Hat Society chapter tomorrow."
Thus began our long and complicated interaction with The Mind of Canon. The first Great Mystery was Evaluative metering.
The generally accepted explanation was that it uses some kind of intelligent algorithm to determine the appropriate exposure, and that the algorithm "placed emphasis" on . . .
Now, here, you had your choice of several expressions to complete the sentence (I will state them more precisely than we usually heard them):
a. [the metering segment at] the active AF point (based on the notion that only one was "active" even though several might be "lit").
b. [the metering segments at] all the active AF points (based on the notion that all the "lit" AF points were "active").
c. [the metering segments at and surrounding] the Active AF point.
d. [the metering segments at and surrounding] all the active AF points .
I myself subscribed to interpretation "d".
Now just recently I found out (from Chuck Westfall of Canon USA, in a discussion thread on the ProPhoto Home forum) that only one AF point is ever "active"; that one controls the AF, and the other lit ones are only showing that they have the same opinion of subject distance. (And we are never told which is the really active one.)
And whatever it is that Evaluative metering does "at" the active AF point, it only does it at the "really active" one, not at the "me toos".
I already linked here to this disclosure.
But this still leaves the question, OK, what does Evaluative metering do that is special with the metering segment at the "active" AF point, or at the segments at and surrounding the "active" AF point (and which of those is it)? What is "emphasis", anyway?
Today Chuck Westfall (in a prolongation of that same thread) gave an explanation that is the best I have heard in all my years of Canon fancy:
By way of introduction, I had (by way of provocation!) asked whether one of two views of the matter were correct. He said, in effect, well, not really either, and then proceeded (I will bold what I consider key passages):
Doug:
Perhaps a better way of expressing the issue is as follows:
1. Evaluative metering reads all segments of the metering sensor.
2. Primary emphasis is placed on the metering segment overlaying the active focusing point, or the center focusing point when the camera is set for manual focusing.
3. Secondary emphasis is placed on the metering segments directly adjacent to the primary metering segment.
4. Tertiary emphasis is placed on all other metering segments.
Evaluative metering uses a variety of algorithms to determine if there is a need to apply exposure compensation to the reading obtained at the primary segment. The algorithms are proprietary and confidential for competitive reasons, but we know that they look at various factors including overall light level, backlighting, spotlighting, and an estimate of relative subject size, as revealed by a comparison of brightness values for each metering segment. They may look at other available data as well, but if so we're not sure exactly what that data may be or how it is used. We know that there are limits on the maximum possible range and gradation of exposure compensation steps that evaluative metering can apply, and we know that the specifications for these factors vary somewhat according to the camera model in question, but we do not know the exact specifications for either.
That's just about as much technical info as I can provide on this topic.
Chuck Westfall
Technical Advisor/Professional Products Mktg. Div.
Consumer Imaging Group/Canon U.S.A., Inc.
So, the truth is:
•The basic exposure measurement is based on the metering segment at the (always single) active AF point (in manual and some other modes, that is always the center one).
•This may then be adjusted ("exposure compensation", a phrase we did not formerly hear in connection with Evaluative metering) based on an intelligent analysis of the metering segments surrounding the active AF point, and (further down the priority chain) all the other metering segments.
•The scope of the subject is not estimated from the cluster of "lit" AF points (as I used to believe, thus my belief in interpretation "d" above), but rather based on an evaluation of the brightness profile.
So, while there is still a lot that we don't know about evaluative metering, I am today gigantically more comfortable with my understanding of it.
Thanks so much to Chuck Westfall in bringing this to a good conclusion. And my ass is worn out from fishing.