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Old July 24th, 2014, 07:21 PM
Asher Kelman Asher Kelman is online now
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Default Frame or no frame and what about background for pictures?

The presentation of art is a major part of the work of anyone making an exhibition, be it the artist, photographer or museum/gallery curator. Here I just want to address important aspects of showing pictures.

Frame: The purpose of the frame traditionally has been to protect, respect and enhance the artwork. The frame if used should not imprison or overpower the image. But lets just consider the framing of images not in a bricks and mortar gallery, but rather here in OPF. Some think that is doesn't matter much, while I for one have had strong opinions: I have felt that the b.g "wall we have in our fora works fairly well, despite requests for a darker b.g. Generally I do not use frames in presenting my pictures in OPF, just center them with white space all around. Well today, I was surprised when the frameless picture I had just made, (7 images-panorama handheld at night to cover a geometrically complex ARCO gas station) at night. Here it is with

#1, our regular b.g.

#2 a "charcoal" frame

#3 A "stainless steel" frame





Asher Kelman: Arco Gas Station Side view #1






Asher Kelman: Arco Gas Station Side view #2





Asher Kelman: Arco Gas Station Side view #3


I'd like to know your opinions as to what difference the frame/b.g. color makes in this instance. Feel free to also give your own examples.

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Old July 24th, 2014, 08:18 PM
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Hi, Asher,

My vote is for number 1 (but of course I am just a telephone engineer).

Now, on the Open Picture Framing Forum, I might have a different opinion.

As to the background, that might be another matter altogether. It might be that a global background other than 247,250,255 might be good. I will ponder that.

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Old July 25th, 2014, 06:14 AM
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I think the first one is the safest, the more neutral the better.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 06:24 AM
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Of them all, the second is my favorite as long as the background is white (or near) but only for presentation here in OPF.

If the background were black or dark grey then yes, the white border would be suitable. Perhaps even larger...

However if the image is to be printed and presented in a gallery or simply to be hang at home, things may change a bit ...

I am very biased by my own "style" of framing.

Oh... this is nice ! Sony photo ? Several photos stitched perhaps...
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Old July 25th, 2014, 06:25 AM
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Hi, Asher,

I said:
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As to the background, that might be another matter altogether. It might be that a global background other than 247,250,255 might be good. I will ponder that.
I just remembered that this background color is a creature of the forum style I had in place, "NC style".

A background of 255,255,255 can be put in place by choosing the style "NC white Background". (The capitalization there is a bit peculiar, perhaps borrowed from the German. It gets more peculiar yet for some of the other choices, such as "NC Black text - White Background".)

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Old July 25th, 2014, 06:36 AM
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How about this as background ?
A simple 65,65,65...

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Old July 25th, 2014, 07:44 AM
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Thank Doug and Antonio,

It's a challenge to design a page that can have as an option to choose the b.g. color.

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Old July 25th, 2014, 08:17 AM
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Old July 25th, 2014, 10:39 AM
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Hi, Asher,

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It's a challenge to design a page that can have as an option to choose the b.g. color.
Indeed. So perhaps you should offer a style that has a background you think would often be nice for photos (a fairly high-luminance "cream", for example).

This would be elected by the viewer, not the presenter.

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Old July 25th, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Indeed. So perhaps you should offer a style that has a background you think would often be nice for photos (a fairly high-luminance "cream", for example).

This would be elected by the viewer, not the presenter.

Best regards,

Doug
Well, we can do both, perhaps, within the bounds of the total design. One issue is that the color has to work with the OPF artwork in the Logo etc. But I will address that.

We might even have an adjustable grey level for each post/all posts. We'll consider that. Whatever we do must respect the artist and design investment in the site, overall, but be most inviting for the individual viewer. It might be, form the design level, to have several choices to take account of ease of reading text and "wall presentation" of images. The simplest system, the better!

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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:40 PM
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I like the idea of frames because otherwise some images with light components can bleed out onto the page. I like #2 though I think I'd prefer a thinner frame and I like Antonio's suggestion.

The ultimate would be to have several formatting choices for a post though I imagine that's wishful thinking.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:52 PM
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The presentation is indeed superior to no frame at all and the generous white space gives so much respect and standing to the picture. Thanks!

Perhaps choices of matte color and the either black or white standardized frame?

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Old July 25th, 2014, 03:31 PM
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The matte (assuming that I am understand correctly that the matte is the grey area) can be white but then the image itself would be lost inside the black frame.

I have tried another color to colorize the matte with one of the colors of the image but I didn't like it and moved to the grey which looks too strong for me now

I could now remember kuler. Here are 5 examples of possible colors.

In my opinion only two - perhaps three - can be used but much much lighter...

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Old July 25th, 2014, 04:36 PM
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That's a wonderful tool to incorporate into our design, if we could! I need to know more about it! I wonder if there's a tool box associated with it to allow it to be incorporated into the website?

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Old July 28th, 2014, 09:42 PM
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Asher Kelman: Kate and the Dragon

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Hollywood July 2014

20"x44" at 300 dpi




Look here at the improvement by providing a charcoal b.g.!



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Old July 29th, 2014, 04:18 AM
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...Look here at the improvement by providing a charcoal b.g.! Asher
A fantastic image with a great canvas and the right proportions. !
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Old July 29th, 2014, 06:17 AM
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Hi, Asher,

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Asher Kelman: Kate and the Dragon

Stitched Panorama

Hollywood July 2014

20"x44" at 300 dpi

Fabulous!

Look here at the improvement by providing a charcoal b.g.!

Ugh!

But it does rescue the sidewalk.

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