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Boats on Lough Derg, Tipperary, Ireland

Rob Naylor

New member
During a business trip to Southern Ireland last week, I managed to grab an afternoon for photography, these are a few of the boats seen on the banks (and quays) of "Lough Derg" on the Northern Border of Tipperary.

And yes, it is a long way to Tipperary!

#1

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#2

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#3 Colour and BW - I couldn't decide...

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Martin Stephens

New member
Nice series. I love boats of all kinds. I like #2 and the color version of #3. Of those, 3 is my favorite and I love the soft and subtle colors. For my taste, the B&W doesn't have any punch, one of the good reasons to use B&W.

Makes me want to take a slow cruise down the river there.
 

Martin Stephens

New member
One small quibble. After looking again when I could get the whole image on the page, I think #3 could have some of the bottom removed. There's a good bit of water under the boat that isn't contributing too much. Just a thought.
 

Rob Naylor

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Hi Martin, fully agree with the choice of colour over BW on #3.
Not so sure about the crop suggestion though. It might be a little too tight?
I dunno...
 

Martin Stephens

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Hi Martin, fully agree with the choice of colour over BW on #3.
Not so sure about the crop suggestion though. It might be a little too tight?
I dunno...
I always assume the artist knows best. My suggestion was just something to try as a look-see. We each have a different eye, and will frame it our own way. I know when I present a photograph to someone, I always have it cropped EXACTLY as I think best! I pay close attention. Then someone says, did you ever think about cropping it this way? and once in a while - - they are right! LOL So, my suggestion was just the way my eye was seeing it, and should be taken very lightly and casually from one eye to another. It's a nice photograph that I really enjoyed!
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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Pictures like this can be cropped to get a new feel. But then one takes it away from the total esthetic pattern of that photographer's mind. This causes a loss of identity when one looks at this picture in the presence of its siblings. Who wants that?

I prefer to get an experience of undecipherable identity as when one meets a long lost relative or recognizes a newly discovered picture by August Sandler. Should someone else have edited that picture, we'd all lose out!

Now I considered the suggestion of cropping when it was mentioned above. Yes it would make the picture have increased immediacy and give more attention to the other boats.

... and that's exactly what would remove the caresses of dark water that allows endless musing. So yes, the crop works well to get attention, but that is short lived and there's no magic left to bring us back time and again.

I'm not claiming that the style here is the hallmark of Rob's work, but at this stage of my learning, I'd just let it all sink in as nothing in the picture say's this is merely a snap. Rather, I'd consider this for selection in a portfolio.

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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I'd love opinions on the impression of this B&W image as seen next to the colored version and then alone surrounded by the white page. To my mind, in the first case, as shown by Rob, the B&W picture seems darker! Is that anyone else's impression too?

Asher
 

Rob Naylor

New member
I prefer to get an experience of undecipherable identity as when one meets a long lost relative or recognizes a newly discovered picture by August Sandler.

Asher,
Thanks for the link to August Sandler.
This is an are of photography I am most uncomfortable with - posed "full figure" people portraits. I have tried this style once or twice and find that I am so far wide of the mark that I give up in despair.
There is one person I know on this forum who does this very well - Antonio C, the images on the August website reminded me of a series Antonio did of the workers of his local town.

One day...
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
I always assume the artist knows best. My suggestion was just something to try as a look-see. We each have a different eye, and will frame it our own way. I know when I present a photograph to someone, I always have it cropped EXACTLY as I think best! I pay close attention. Then someone says, did you ever think about cropping it this way? and once in a while - - they are right! LOL So, my suggestion was just the way my eye was seeing it, and should be taken very lightly and casually from one eye to another. It's a nice photograph that I really enjoyed!
This is very true indeed, the same applies to me for 100%.
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
A nice series Rob, you've made great use of your scarce free time over there.
I also specifically like the number 3 in colour, but the others are also good.
Here's one of my barge pictures resembling your #3.
 

Rob Naylor

New member
A nice series Rob, you've made great use of your scarce free time over there.
I also specifically like the number 3 in colour, but the others are also good.
Here's one of my barge pictures resembling your #3.

Thanks for the comments Cem.

It's eerie that both the barge images have a very similar POV and treatment. Interesting.

I also did a "throw-away" shot of the same barge exactly side on, it is posted in the "Risk-it" area ( "No Perspective" ). I would value your thoughts on that version, because I am unsure...
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Thanks for the comments Cem.

It's eerie that both the barge images have a very similar POV and treatment. Interesting.

I also did a "throw-away" shot of the same barge exactly side on, it is posted in the "Risk-it" area ( "No Perspective" ). I would value your thoughts on that version, because I am unsure...
I've seen the other version indeed. I take many similar shots myself, so nothing strange to my eyes, lol. I'll react there.
 
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