fahim mohammed
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I obviously never met in the flesh!
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Asher Kelman
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Fahim,
Yes, you've gotten my attention. One's Greek/Roman and the other looks more real, like a Madame Tussauds WaxWorks figure! So what's the connection?
Asher
Yes, you've gotten my attention. One's Greek/Roman and the other looks more real, like a Madame Tussauds WaxWorks figure! So what's the connection?
Asher
fahim mohammed
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Asher,
The connection ( if that ) is that both of these sculptors are from spain. The first one is from the Prado museum..and my notes indicate only number #39
. Google has so far not given me the relevant info.
Re: photo #2, it is from Toledo, Spain. A sculptor by Venezulan artist Victori Macho. It could be his mother or grandmother. The premises are located in the old Jewish quarter. I found Toledo to be a very interesting city. History dates it to the 13th century and has been a fortification for the Romans, Arabs,and Christians. The architecture is a combination of the Jewish, Arab, Roman and Christian heritage.
Interesting to note that the Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative harmony till the time when the Inquisition hounded the Jews and Muslims ( or those that converted to Christianity ), just to make sure.
Another interesting observation that the Roman/Greek works of art of antiquity and renaissance do not
stress that ' democracy' for the Greeks/Romans was not for the ' slaves '. Strange that modern concepts of democracy trumpet their political innovations.
Regards.
The connection ( if that ) is that both of these sculptors are from spain. The first one is from the Prado museum..and my notes indicate only number #39
. Google has so far not given me the relevant info.Re: photo #2, it is from Toledo, Spain. A sculptor by Venezulan artist Victori Macho. It could be his mother or grandmother. The premises are located in the old Jewish quarter. I found Toledo to be a very interesting city. History dates it to the 13th century and has been a fortification for the Romans, Arabs,and Christians. The architecture is a combination of the Jewish, Arab, Roman and Christian heritage.
Interesting to note that the Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative harmony till the time when the Inquisition hounded the Jews and Muslims ( or those that converted to Christianity ), just to make sure.
Another interesting observation that the Roman/Greek works of art of antiquity and renaissance do not
stress that ' democracy' for the Greeks/Romans was not for the ' slaves '. Strange that modern concepts of democracy trumpet their political innovations.
Regards.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Southern spain, after the fervor of Muslim conquest and before the Inquisition was rich in culture. The ideas of the educated Arabs and the scholarship of Jews injected the seeds of education beyond priests into Europe.Asher,
The connection ( if that ) is that both of these sculptors are from spain. The first one is from the Prado museum..and my notes indicate only number #39
Re: photo #2, it is from Toledo, Spain. A sculptor by Venezulan artist Victori Macho. It could be his mother or grandmother. The premises are located in the old Jewish quarter. I found Toledo to be a very interesting city. History dates it to the 13th century and has been a fortification for the Romans, Arabs,and Christians. The architecture is a combination of the Jewish, Arab, Roman and Christian heritage.
Interesting to note that the Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative harmony till the time when the Inquisition hounded the Jews and Muslims ( or those that converted to Christianity ), just to make sure.
Another interesting observation that the Roman/Greek works of art of antiquity and renaissance do not
stress that ' democracy' for the Greeks/Romans was not for the ' slaves '. Strange that modern concepts of democracy trumpet their political innovations.
Regards.
If religious conquests do unify empires they're still so very destructive of cultures. Imagine the devotion of the descendants of humiliated nations to the mythology of their cruel conquerers! What a cruel irony! Look at the entire continent of South America! What leads, is the the delusion of the new faith to exclusion of other beliefs or is it just the greed for more riches and power? I'm not sure as even the conquerers are deluded! Certainly, conversions provide social glue, belonging and loyalty to the vanquished peoples! The gold doors of cathedrals are still in Spain and the religion in the former empires persists, so it's a pretty stable relationship!
What's interesting is the beauty of the male figure but the sexuality if not trumpeted.
Asher
Democracy applies to those brought to the table to vote. "Women are in the kitchen or bed" and that understanding still applies today in a lot of places. Slaves, of course are not citizens and so cannot vote. Again, that's true today.
Asher