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Beverley Hills Turns Red

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Asher Kelman

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I was there, there were not thousands, but there were a few hundred perhaps at the flags were very large. Essentially harmless but breaking the law by not wearing masks!

Beverly Hills is solidly anti-Trump and nothing these transient hilarious clowns say is going to influence anyone.

Asher
 

James Lemon

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I was there, there were not thousands, but there were a few hundred perhaps at the flags were very large. Essentially harmless but breaking the law by not wearing masks!

Beverly Hills is solidly anti-Trump and nothing these transient hilarious clowns say is going to influence anyone.

Asher
People are leaving California in droves, probably because the left cant comprehend the fundamental principals of correct reasoning. The only reason they like flawed candidates like Joe and Hillary is because the are easy to subvert into complicity or outright blackmail into submission. The democratic party will crash soon!
 
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Asher Kelman

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People are leaving California in droves, probably because the left cant comprehend the fundamental principals of correct reasoning. The only reason they like flawed candidates like Joe and Hillary is because the are easy to subvert into complicity or outright blackmail into submission. The democratic party will crash soon!
What planet are you living on? I would have voted for Trump had he not worsened the Pandemic by his lack of doing his job and obstructing the CDC and separating babies from their mother’s breast and losing the references to that family so that over 540 children CANNOT BE MATCHED AND REUNITED!


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Asher Kelman: “The Migrant”
Stainless Steel, Corten and marble.

........apart from that my whole of family’s would have supported him. I fear damage of beautiful socialists like AOC and her “Squad”,

.....but
1. his walking away from science and​
2. packing the Supreme Court to abolish abortion and gay marriage is simply cruel and totally unneeded!​

But you only post to annoy. It won’t last, as shortly, he will get his comeuppance: into the garbage bin of history.

Biden will rise to the occasion and be the man to reunite us! He is NOT doctrinaire, but he is definitely a good man and we trust him.

“Trumpism, the cult of personality, bad manners and inconsideration will take a long time to counter. The encouragement of division, blatant racism and brutalization by fascistic police is a stain on the integrity of most men and women in uniform and on the Republican Party who use every dirty trick to subvert faith in the electoral process!”

The prescient words of my 12 year old grandson!
Asher
 
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Asher Kelman

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A very marginal interaction of the unimportant fragments of Trumps uneducated red echos!

No thousands!

Asher
 

Jerome Marot

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Maybe we should talk about pictures. The cited article presents a few and lets the reader believe that there is a crowd demonstrating against masks. Here is the first picture from the article (it looks like 3 pictures, but there is only one jpeg):

The first surprise is that this file is actually hosted on blogspot. None of the pictures in the article are hosted on site (the others are twitter links). That is unusual for reputable sites.
But let us concern with the pictures themselves. How many people do you count on each picture? (Answer: 11, 3 and 7). There is hardly any crowd. It just so happens that I used to take pictures for a demonstration, the job was to make it appear a crowd. I did exactly the same: large signs, telephoto to compress the perspective and make people appear closer than they were, tight shots with a hint that there was a crowd behind them, even if the background people are not actually part of the crowd.
Two little details: on the left hand picture, there is a rainbow flag in the distance. We may be actually looking at people from a counter demonstration. The bottom right picture is flipped left to right (markings on the cap), I would call that a poor job.
 

Jerome Marot

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That is not what I would call a "research". This is simply looking at the pictures offered and seeing whether they actually show what the article wants the reader to believe. A research would seek other, independent, sources.

No competences are needed beyond the one all photographers should normally have, which makes this analysis particularly suited to this particular forum.

Developing the capacity to analyse the media is more important today than ever. It works in the following manner. First, fake news are always extraordinary. They need to do that for two reasons: the first is that news need to be at least a bit extraordinary to be "news" and be reposted, of course. The second is more interesting: by being extraordinary, they will produce an emotional response in the reader. The response can either be a confirmation bias, the "believer" of the particular theory will think "I knew that all along!". It can also be a rejection (for the reader which is against the news presented). But it is an emotional rejection.

And this is the important point: by displacing our reasoning from the logical, analytic one to the emotional plane, the article prevents that we check the facts. Here the fact is "how many people are there in the picture?". We can actually count them, but we don't. Once we let ourselves be dominated by our emotions, we have lost and that is the same whether we are "for" or "against" the news which are presented.

I urge everyone to do these analysis, particularly for the news which confirm what we like to believe. We all do the same mistakes and it really takes training to pause a moment and reflect about an article: "what does it really show?", "what do they purpose to say?", "what is the evidence?", etc...
 

James Lemon

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What planet are you living on? I would have voted for Trump had he not worsened the Pandemic by his lack of doing his job and obstructing the CDC and separating babies from their mother’s breast and losing the references to that family so that over 540 children CANNOT BE MATCHED AND REUNITED!


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Asher Kelman: “The Migrant”
Stainless Steel, Corten and marble.

........apart from that my whole of family’s would have supported him. I fear damage of beautiful socialists like AOC and her “Squad”,

.....but
1. his walking away from science and​
2. packing the Supreme Court to abolish abortion and gay marriage is simply cruel and totally unneeded!​

But you only post to annoy. It won’t last, as shortly, he will get his comeuppance: into the garbage bin of history.

Biden will rise to the occasion and be the man to reunite us! He is NOT doctrinaire, but he is definitely a good man and we trust him.

“Trumpism, the cult of personality, bad manners and inconsideration will take a long time to counter. The encouragement of division, blatant racism and brutalization by fascistic police is a stain on the integrity of most men and women in uniform and on the Republican Party who use every dirty trick to subvert faith in the electoral process!”

The prescient words of my 12 year old grandson!
Asher
You are either uninformed or like to gaslight people with your unsubstantiated B.S. Biden will put your country on a downhill slide into poverty.
 
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
You are either uninformed or like to gaslight people with your unsubstantiated B.S. Biden will put your country on a downhill slide into poverty.
You are the one, James, my friend, who reposted here the obviously fake news about “thousands” for those psaltry, scattered few dozen yobos with giant flags and no masks, inconsiderate like their Fuehrer!

I was there! You were not, LOL!

Res Ipsa loquitor

Asher
 

James Lemon

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You are the one, James, my friend, who reposted here the obviously fake news about “thousands” for those psaltry, scattered few dozen yobos with giant flags and no masks, inconsiderate like their Fuehrer!

I was there! You were not, LOL!

Res Ipsa loquitor

Asher
Yes my point exactly "Fake News" and fear porn. Trump is short 3 electoral votes for a clear path to victory.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/201...e-different-paths-to-270-electoral-votes.html
 
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Yes my point exactly "Fake News" and fear porn. Trump is short 3 electoral votes for a clear path to victory.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/201...e-different-paths-to-270-electoral-votes.html
Meaning what, you agree with Trump’s creation of so obviously fake news?

So, you then agree with the balloon of a lie that there were “thousands of Trump supporters in Beverly Hills”, when that clearly never happened?

What are you “agreeing to”? What’s your point exactly?

Or you are just on automatic right-wing “repeat the delusion and it might become “Truth”?

The continued success of such memes is an amazing anachronism but at last we will see it vanquished for once on November 3rd!

Asher
 

Doug Kerr

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Hi, James,
Trump is short 3 electoral votes for a clear path to victory.
Well, hopefully we'll know on 2021.01 06
That is the date that the winner of the presidential election is declared.

The earlier date (2020.12.14) is the date that the actual presidential election is held.

Best regards,

Doug
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
The thread is closed for you, James.

But if, my longstanding friend, you’ve a “Mea Culpa”, that you were merely satirical and pretending to believe what you posted about the “thousands“, and show contrition and good humor, you can post further.

Otherwise, this thread has exhausted its relevance by repeating sheer nonsense, (for humor, meaniness, flaming or otherwise), in a photography forum that tries to respect the truth and other people.

Others, just like ask me and I’ll open it for your comments.

Asher
 
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