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From Paris: Absence Explained!

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I never thought it would be so hard to keep in touch. I travelled to France and Israel for a wedding and on the way caught a bug and have been dosed up. Also my laptop refused to make connection except in the airports. Now I'm back in Paris and found a Starbucks where connection is perfect and I'm happy.

It's raining here and there are nice reflections of the folk crossing the road below my hotel window. For fresh air at night, one has to go inside a restaurant as the sidewalks are crowded with smokers, exercising their freedom to smoke the Gauloises cigarettes. It's like the remaining edges of La Liberté!

Asher
 

Doug Kerr

Well-known member
Hi, Asher,

I never thought it would be so hard to keep in touch. I travelled to France and Israel for a wedding and on the way caught a bug and have been dosed up. Also my laptop refused to make connection except in the airports. Now I'm back in Paris and found a Starbucks where connection is perfect and I'm happy.

It's raining here and there are nice reflections of the folk crossing the road below my hotel window. For fresh air at night, one has to go inside a restaurant as the sidewalks are crowded with smokers, exercising their freedom to smoke the Gauloises cigarettes. It's like the remaining edges of La Liberté!
I'm so glad you are, I trust, well again. I hope that the mattress of your hotel bed doesn't sag in that horrible Parisian way and that the remainder of your trip will be safe.

I'm so glad that this episode of absence did not involve an absence episode.

We hope to see wondrous photographic and narrative results from your journey.

We, too, caught a bug, but not of the pathological variety. Rather it was a brief but intense obsession with ophthalmic/optometric instruments and their world. Its comptes rendus should be published later today.

Venido con Dios, my friend.

Best regards,

Doug
 
We, too, caught a bug, but not of the pathological variety. Rather it was a brief but intense obsession with ophthalmic/optometric instruments and their world. Its comptes rendus should be published later today.

I noticed that there is a "strange lenses malfunction" these days in the forum...


Anyway, Any report on the strikes? I only get that in the British newspapers.
I'm glad you get better...
 

John Angulat

pro member
I never thought it would be so hard to keep in touch...
Asher

I'm relieved the absence was, for the most part, a pleasurable cause!
Thin excuse though...I had better as a teenager!
We've been up late, pacing at the door fearing the worst.
Bad cop, no donut.
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Thanks Doug, Sandrine and John for the comments. For some reason the internet is now working in my hotel in Paris. I am recovering with the good help of my wife and good medicine. Thank goodness for the pharmacie where one can buy anything!

When we arrived in Paris every 4th street was blockaded by police and it took 2.5 hours to get to our hotel. At one point we could see a flash and then smoke. Someone let of something. could have been tear gas, but I have no way of knowing.

Will download my pics and see what I have got!

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Yes, that would be great, Rachel!

Today, the air has been blown fresh clean and with an edge of cold autumn to bring out the scarfs once more. The packed bars with smoking offending my lungs and nostrils of last night has disappeared. Those folk are sleeping off last night's excesses. Lots of bicycles are chained to the rails, one with a bent front wheel, obviously an unfortunate accident. Fresh leaves have fallen.

Found a Le Pain Quotdien to buy a long baguette and there's great tea to make n my room and a hunk of Swiss cheese to go with it.

Yesterday was Versailles so there wll be lots of pics of course!

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Today is the last day in Paris. Paris has a holiday for All Saints Day. Notre Dame Cathedral was packed and the sermon was shown on about 40 large LCD screens.

It was in French, but apparently mass is delivered in a number of languages. It was good to see a house of worship used for more than a tourist stop.

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Does that mean you're fleeing the country or heading off into our beautiful countryside?....the colours are magnificent at the moment.
Safe travels whichever option you choose.

Bob

Bob,

We flew home today and the Air France Airbus was the most comfortable ever.

Yes, there's more to France than Paris. We have not done justice to the rich natural landscape and the cultural opportunities outside of Paris. So we visited Versailles first to see how the royals lived, (it seems to be much like the excessive pattern of the Boards of Directors of some Corporations, spoiling themselves even when the common folk have little), and also to enjoy the colors of the autumn leaves at sunset. The nights need to get longer to get the rich golds and reds we see in New England. Colors are actually present the whole year but Green Chlorophyl masks them! We had a wonderful spectacle as the gold of the setting sun seemed to set the flagrant leafy color display of the trees beyond the paths, statues and fountains. Not as fully developed as one finds in Vermont but for sure, Versailles is far more elegant!

I have promised myself a far longer visit to France next time and to get to the suburbs and countryside.

Asher
 
France is delightful outside Paris, Asher. Two hours by car is a whole different world.

I stated that as an introduction to my arrival here in this forum (for those who recall) and I couldn't agree more... I packed away my grief against Parisians now I live in Great Britain so I tell you in Peace: "Take any direction randomly and drive for 2/3 hours". :)
I used to live south of France but it's a world apart (concerning the people I mean). Start by the Britanny and if you can afford going farther, test the Vosges (east of France) - not in Winter though. Then Region of Lyon (Beaugeolais, Chalon sur Soane etc...) The cradle of Photography in France!!!! Then the Alps (Haute Savoie), the most wonderful landscape in the world (I mean it)....

For sure we have our own red necks...People hard to handle, racists some time (particularly with Americans, sorry), it's everywhere the same: some people here think I eat snails for my breakfast (yerk!). But given some time, most of the people are very welcoming (I try to be impartial) and in the villages when you're "the American" you're the attraction. (I know some places where anybody coming from abroad is called "the American").
If you speak French it's all right, because they don't speak English!!!
 

Martin Evans

New member
May I support the sentiments of Bob Latham, Kathy Rappaport and Sandrine Bascouert? I remember sitting outside a village bar-cafe somewhere in the Cote-d'or, several decades ago. It was warm and sunny, and I had a glass of local Burgundy in front of me, while I wrote a postcard to my professor. I was threatening never to return to my teaching post at London university!
As for the autumn leaf colours, they are unusually intense in East Anglia this year - something to do with the weather we have had during 2010, according to my botanist wife. Are the colours unusually intense in France also, this year?
We hope that you will soon visit us in Europe again, Asher, and have better health next time!
 

Bob Latham

New member
I have promised myself a far longer visit to France next time and to get to the suburbs and countryside.
However much time you allocate Asher, you'll always be one day short.

France is delightful outside Paris, Asher. Two hours by car is a whole different world.
The vagaries of Parisan traffic have lead me to always specify a distance rather than time.....there will be many occasions when "two hours" will still have you sitting on the Peripherique


If you speak French it's all right, because they don't speak English!!!
They're learning English very quickly now Sandrine and I suspect that the next generation will be as profficient as the Dutch and Belgians where multilinguicity is concerned



. Are the colours unusually intense in France also, this year?
They certainly are Martin...the foliage illuminated by the late evening sun is a joy to behold.
 
They're learning English very quickly now Sandrine and I suspect that the next generation will be as profficient as the Dutch and Belgians where multilinguicity is concerned


The problem is: it depends on your area...
It's still the same as when I was a kid.
The Spanish language is better appreciated in the south-west area...
in more remote areas, at the 6th form you're more likely to start Spanish first and then English second. There's no question of learning German or Italian (I grew up in Toulouse and I was unable to find a college but private school to start learning German, I had to cope with Spanish :- ) ). According with my experience with my husband's nephews (from 10 to 17 years old), their English is really pitiful, because they see no point of learning it. Most of them come from Spanish background at some point. it might be different in big towns now, or in other parts of France.
 

Bob Latham

New member
I think you're underestimating your compatriots a little Sandrine. I arrived in rural Western France (Vienne) in September last year. I was equipped with some rudimentary schoolboy French topped up by regular business visits over the last 30 years or so. I'm accompanied by my wife and 80 years old father-in-law, neither of whom possessed more than "oui" and "non"....they didn't even know how to wave their arms in time to the words and the gallic shrug was little more than mythology to them.
During the past 14 months, I've progressed from nervous and embarrassed babbling to the point where I can now string together some totally incomprehensible sentences with an air of conficence and aplomb (maybe I should go into politics?)

Anyway, to the point....
One of our two rural postmen is happy to converse in broken English, my wife's "coiffeuse" makes a very passable effort, the assistance in the DIY store explains what we need, our GP is fluent and the veterinarian adequate. The farmer (who leases some of our land) expertly explained his inability to pay the rent due (that's another story) and some of the players in the local football team thanked me for taking their photographs and then spent a while discussing the rise and fall of King Eric (that's footballer Eric Cantona for the uninitiated).

I think the French (as a nation) were, for many years, implored not to speak English and dutifully followed the official dictat. More recently the digital revolution and desire to travel has buried this unwritten rule and the desire to learn is winning the battle. There silence to avoid getting it wrong has been replaced with the kudos of getting it right. There are many more French people prepared to speak English than English people willing to attempt French....by a fair margin I'd guess.

Cordialement

Bob
 
Anyway, to the point....
O then spent a while discussing the rise and fall of King Eric (that's footballer Eric Cantona for the uninitiated).

For sure it's great debates here as well (seagulls, sardines etc...)

I think the French (as a nation) were, for many years, implored not to speak English and dutifully followed the official dictat. More recently the digital revolution and desire to travel has buried this unwritten rule and the desire to learn is winning the battle. There silence to avoid getting it wrong has been replaced with the kudos of getting it right. There are many more French people prepared to speak English than English people willing to attempt French....by a fair margin I'd guess.


That's for sure, there's absolutely no doubt about that. But they don't need to speak French, none of the song they listen to the radio are written in French (the last one might be "Michelle" by the Beatles). None of the technical books they have to borrow from the library are written in French...

Of course the nephew can say yes or no, but not much, The same way probably you used to speak French when you 1st came in France. But they are Young, for some of them it's their 4th year of English at school. The landlady I live with has a little boy (about 6) and he fancies speaking a little French (the digits from 1 to 10, bonjour, bonsoir, bonjour monsieur ou madame, no more). They are absolutely unable to answer when on Skype. Not even "how are you little boy". They don't use English in an English speaking country. French has a use for you, you had to speak French. They don't. They just don't care. It will be an handicap later, and they'll learn a bit better later, but now...They even don't care about the lyrics of the song and sing "Dookie" by Green day as if it was not ridiculous. But as I said they speak a fairly good Spanish, that they learn at school from 6 or 7, go on holidays in Spain, speak on a regular basis to the old Spanish expats from the war. If I tell them, "go and spend 2 weeks in Brighton, all expenses paid" They wouldn't go. We would have paid for that when we were young - O tempora, O mores, said the old pirate (french comics joke)

But again, it's a personal story and maybe I generalize.
And also, from what I remember, when we used to learn English at school, we were not able to use contracted forms such "I wouldn't" instead of "I would not" because it was not real English. The only acceptable pieces of litterature were Shakespeare, and the Beatles at the end of the year, as a threat. It was in the 80's. It was a shock when I was to come here for living.
 
casimir, my hero....




The Casimir effect is a small attractive force that acts between two close parallel uncharged conducting plates. It is due to quantum vacuum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field.

The effect was predicted by the Dutch physicist Hendrick Casimir in 1948. According to the quantum theory, the vacuum contains virtual particles which are in a continuous state of fluctuation (see physics FAQ article on virtual particles). Casimir realised that between two plates, only those virtual photons whose wavelengths fit a whole number of times into the gap should be counted when calculating the vacuum energy. The energy density decreases as the plates are moved closer, which implies that there is a small force drawing them together.

The attractive Casimir force between two plates of area A separated by a distance L can be calculated to be,


π h c
F = ------- A
480 L4

where h is Planck's constant and c is the speed of light.



(copied from an article of Desy.de)


But I also grown up with that: Attention! French voices, so funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFetmphRVWo
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Cedric,

I was there! Unfortunately, 90% of the revolutionaries where in the Marais, line tend deep outside the Cafés so they could exercise the last rights under the law and smoke like free men.

I did get one picture of a crowd, a giant bang and flash and then pillars of smoke as we passed a blocked off road.

villapain selling 50 Airbuses to China and nuclear energy technology will create more jobs in France unless the plains will be built in China!

Asher
Hi Asher,

What a pity, you arrived a bit too late : you missed our annual Revolution attempt :D
Hope i will see you next time.

Regards,

Cedric.
 
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