My World: It is just point and shoot..

[fahim mohammed]

Don't believe me..

Of course, one can go to a photography school and learn about art, light , color, and design.

Talk less, just point and shoot..

Try it. It is free. It is liberating. It is a sure way to learn.

Very very simple. Without all the ' art ' but just a bit of courtesy and point and shoot...

Make photography easy. Make it simple. Make it yours. It is just point and shoot.

 

[Asher Kelman]

Just point and shoot!

Don't believe me..

Of course, one can go to a photography school and learn about art, light , color, and design.

Talk less, just point and shoot..

Try it. It is free. It is liberating. It is a sure way to learn.

Very very simple. Without all the ' art ' but just a bit of courtesy and point and shoot...

Fahim,

This is taken from the mind, not the camera! We have to aquire an ability see and then to know where to look. Then comes the love affair with recording our discoveries. That's what you did! If others did the same, they might, perhaps, produce as good a picture.

"Buying a flute does not a flautist make!"

Asher

 

[Doug Kerr]

Hi Fahim,

Great name for a technique.

Terrible name for a camera (you didn't use it that way).

In any case, wondrous photos.

Best regards,

Doug

My EOD 40D must be one those "point and shoot" cameras I keep hearing about. If I don't point it, I don't get a picture of the right thing. If I don't shoot it, I don't get any picture at all.

 

[Maggie Terlecki]

Great work, Fahim, I love them.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Doug, Maggie..thank you for the nice words.

Kind regards and best wishes.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Fahim,

......

"Buying a flute does not a flautist make!"

Asher

Asher, thanks for looking in.
I was specifically referring to photography in this context. I want to learn about light, look at Vermeer, or Rubens for example. Landscapes; Turner, Cole, Constable etc., Portraits; For me, Vermeer; Photography for me means Salagado and a very few others.

Most photography schools and photography teachers are worthless. I am being generous here.
I have named a few masters; people can find many more. Learn from them. It is free.

Practice. Point and Shoot. Look at Turner again. Point and Shoot. Have a look at Vermeer again.
Point and Shoot.

I maintain my opinion.

 

[Asher Kelman]

Asher, thanks for looking in.
I was specifically referring to photography in this context. I want to learn about light, look at Vermeer, or Rubens for example. Landscapes; Turner, Cole, Constable etc., Portraits; For me, Vermeer; Photography for me means Salagado and a very few others.

Most photography schools and photography teachers are worthless. I am being generous here.
I have named a few masters; people can find many more. Learn from them. It is free.

Practice. Point and Shoot. Look at Turner again. Point and Shoot. Have a look at Vermeer again.
Point and Shoot.

Exactly! None of that is in the camera. First the mind and then a lot of training. To take pictures like someone else is only a stage. Still, it's not as difficult as painting the same scene!

Your work has nothing to do with a camera but in your background and values.

Asher

 

[George Holroyd]

Nice shots. I think it also comes down to being able to go where those photos were taken, not everyone has access to those scenes. A lot went into each photo, time and money. Trivializing the effort required to produce such images adds nothing to their beauty.

 

[Mark Hampton]

Nice shots. I think it also comes down to being able to go where those photos were taken, not everyone has access to those scenes. A lot went into each photo, time and money. Trivializing the effort required to produce such images adds nothing to their beauty.

i find for me it detracts

 

[fahim mohammed]

George, thank you for your comments.
As to being able to travel to take photos, that is not a pre-requisite for the images I most love to make.

This is my home..sometimes I have to travel to the desert yes, often the photo opportunities are right in my house..

Nice shots. I think it also comes down to being able to go where those photos were taken, not everyone has access to those scenes. A lot went into each photo, time and money. Trivializing the effort required to produce such images adds nothing to their beauty.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Nothing can be closer than the following..

I really do not care if such images are done a billion times..I do what gives me pleasure. Not some pseudo artists at the oracle preaching.

To me, my photography is to do what I love. Not to follow some snake oil sellers in search of artistic nirvana.

Point and Shoot.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Just a few more that are currently handy..

Once again, it is point and shoot. Photography is for me point and shoot.

No, I do not have to travel to capture the most treasured moments in my life.
They are here and now.

I just point and shoot. As to what detracts or not; I really do not care. I do what pleases me and the way
I know how. There is always room for improvement, I know that. I try to do better.

But as someone said, I do not let some vague visions obscure my sight. And my viewfinder.

Point and shoot is what I do, what I know, and the results of which I share.

 

[fahim mohammed]

And my wife too. She pointed and shooted!!

Just to make sure, she did it again. Pointed and shooted!!

I asked her what took her so long..' I waited for her to climb the stairs and come near the door, before I pointed and shooted '.

Her English needs more practice, though.

 

[Michael Nagel]

Fahim,

let me just add one word to the title - See

Without seeing you and your wife would point at anything and shoot the wrong moment.
Here I see the right direction and the right moment, so seeing is the key.

Thanks for showing - I enjoy it.

Best regards,
Michael

 

[George Holroyd]

Fahim,

let me just add one word to the title - See

Without seeing you and your wife would point at anything and shoot the wrong moment.
Here I see the right direction and the right moment, so seeing is the key.

Thanks for showing - I enjoy it.

Best regards,
Michael

Ok, so how about See, Point, Determine Exposure, Focus, Compose, Shoot, and Post Process? Not necessarily in that order for the first several items.

 

[Michael Nagel]

Ok, so how about See, Point, Determine Exposure, Focus, Compose, Shoot, and Post Process? Not necessarily in that order for the first several items.

George,

as long as you are not aiming for anything special in exposure or post-processing, you can still say:
See - point and shoot.
Composition is part of seeing and exposure and focus can be done by the camera as long as you do do not desire special DoF.

Peace.

Best regards,
Michael

 

[Jerome Marot]

If I may ask, what is it exactly that you are trying to say? What are we supposed to understand from this post? Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? Are we supposed to change the way we talk about pictures in some ways? Please tell us what you mean.

 

[Mark Hampton]

If I may ask, what is it exactly that you are trying to say? What are we supposed to understand from this post? Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? Are we supposed to change the way we talk about pictures in some ways? Please tell us what you mean.

fahims on a rant again - with some interesting images. Makes for good reading.

 

[fahim mohammed]

fahims on a rant again - with some interesting images. Makes for good reading.

Mark, many are ' ranting ' on OPF. I consider this an alternate pov. My pov, of how I take photographs.
And I am not shouting.

Thank you for finding ' some interesting images '.

Regards.

 

[Asher Kelman]

If I may ask, what is it exactly that you are trying to say? What are we supposed to understand from this post? Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? Are we supposed to change the way we talk about pictures in some ways? Please tell us what you mean.

Jerome,

Fahim takes good pictures with his Leicas and fab lenses too! What he realized is that the point and shoots also do a great job, if one actually brings the camera in one's pocket. He's discovered that he has now something to tell those folks who fuss about not have good enough gear to capture shots that will stand the test of time.

He's right but at least a few of us have known that for some time. Most folks photograph is ruined simply by not taking the camera with them!

My own view is that a second step is helpful:

The critical review: photocopy a print and then mark it up with a red wax pencil as to what needs improving next time. That's what I do. If I show it to my son, for example, I mark up on a photocopy his criticism. I may not use any of that, but one does need to close the loop and evaluate purposefully what one has done by passion.

Asher

 

[fahim mohammed]

If I may ask, what is it exactly that you are trying to say? What are we supposed to understand from this post? Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? Please tell us what you mean.

"what is it exactly that you are trying to say?"

I believe that the majority of so called current schools and teachers of ' Photography ' are of dubious value..if any value at all. One can learn much more by perusing the works of masters in museums ( or the internet ) for free. And practice. It is as simple as pointing and shooting.


"What are we supposed to understand from this post?"

Exactly what I stated above, and that all it takes to make a very acceptable and visually appealing photograph is to point one's camera and shoot. Then view the results and try again, keeping the techniques employed by the ' masters ' in mind and try again. No need to pay for a photography school or a photography teacher.

" Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? "

It is really up to each one. I am not proposing anything. I just point and shoot. Do what you want.

" Are we supposed to change the way we take pictures in some ways? "

Same question. Same response as above.

" Please tell us what you mean. "

See above.

Best regards.

 

[fahim mohammed]

George,

as long as you are not aiming for anything special in exposure or post-processing, you can still say:
See - point and shoot.
Composition is part of seeing and exposure and focus can be done by the camera as long as you do do not desire special DoF.

Peace.

Best regards,
Michael

Michael.
Thank you. I should have included the word ' See ' as you correctly have pointed out.

George.
I think Michael has more lucidly answered your question than I can.

Thank you both and my kindest regards.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Jerome,
....

My own view is that a second step is helpful:

The critical review: photocopy a print and then mark it up with a red wax pencil as to what needs improving next time. That's what I do. If I show it to my son, for example, I mark up on a photocopy his criticism. I may not use any of that, but one does need to close the loop and evaluate purposefully what one has done by passion.

Asher

Asher, thank you. That is one of the most crucial steps. To see what went wrong. And why? Then go back and maintain the loop of successive improvement. Vital and free advice from Asher! I told you.

And yes, for most of what I do the deep DoF of point and shoots suffices admirably.


Warmest regards.

 

[fahim mohammed]

The last one by my wife. D-Lux4. Pointed and Shotted, as she says...

 

[Jerome Marot]

I believe that the majority of so called current schools and teachers of ' Photography ' are of dubious value..if any value at all. One can learn much more by perusing the works of masters in museums ( or the internet ) for free. And practice. It is as simple as pointing and shooting.

What do you mean by "current schools and teachers"? If you mean official schools of arts and photography, of the type that are part of a university curriculum, they also teach the aspects necessary to make photography a profession. If you mean workshops or photography week-ends and evening courses offered to amateurs, their main selling point is usually that they allow the students to practice with equipment (e.g. studio strobes) or locations that the students would find difficult to arrange themselves. I am not quite sure I am following you.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Jerome, I mean exactly what I have said. No need for me to elaborate further.

Now what about our point and shoot photos. Do you like, them, not like them? Any photographic advice in this regard?

Any photo examples you care to show?

Regards.

 

[Jerome Marot]

Any photographic advice in this regard?

After your posts, I don't feel entitled to say anything or analyze your pictures. Only teachers give advice and you made clear that they are not to be listened to.

Any photo examples you care to show?

It is your thread, Fahim. You are the one here who points and shoots and presents the results, not me.

 

[fahim mohammed]

Great. That's sorted then; from my end of course.

Best.

p.s. edited to clarify.
I am more than willing to take constructive criticism of my work from teachers, who in my opinion, add value. And from those that offer their advice with respect for others. Here at OPF or elsewhere.