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Shanghai, China

Jerome Marot

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Off the beaten path.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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Jerome Marot: Off the beaten path


Well, Jerome,

This seems an unlikely place to be "off the beaten path" as there's a massive Zebra-Crossing, hardly something in the countryside. I am stunned to see merchandise, (including live ducks and chickens and perhaps a miniature slaughter house, in the form of a bowl, behind), on sale in the actual roadway! This is one busy and interesting place. It's striking how Western this scene looks, except for this ad-hoc butcher shop.

Asher

BTW, was this 24mm or even wider?
 

Jerome Marot

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This seems an unlikely place to be "off the beaten path" as there's a massive Zebra-Crossing, hardly something in the countryside.

Does "off the beaten path" imply that the place is in the wilderness in English? I did not realize that. I meant that this is a part of the city where tourists rarely wander. Shanghai is a huge city with vast expanses of areas filled by high-rise buildings to lodge millions of blue collar workers.


I am stunned to see merchandise, (including live ducks and chickens and perhaps a miniature slaughter house, in the form of a bowl, behind), on sale in the actual roadway! This is one busy and interesting place. It's striking how Western this scene looks, except for this ad-hoc butcher shop.

Yes, they would kill the animal of your choice right under your eyes. It is the only time I saw live animals sold this way. OTOH, it is quite commonplace to see farmers setting up a small stall at a street corner to sell their produce. And these shopping areas away from the city center are quite lively, to my eye they live as a small village, the people there appeared to know each other quite well, so they must come every day.


BTW, was this 24mm or even wider?
16mm
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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Yes, they would kill the animal of your choice right under your eyes. It is the only time I saw live animals sold this way. OTOH, it is quite commonplace to see farmers setting up a small stall at a street corner to sell their produce. And these shopping areas away from the city center are quite lively, to my eye they live as a small village, the people there appeared to know each other quite well, so they must come every day.

Actually, Jerome, killing the animals on the spot means that no refrigeration of meat is required and there's much less chance of getting some infection, unless it comes from the knives. The dose of any contamination will be less simply because there's less bacterial multiplication. The butcher does not have perfectly clean hands, LOL! I'd still cook to 150 degrees Fahrenheit, (65.6 degrees Celcius) to kill the Salmonella that might be there!

So, Jerome, would you consider correcting the ? anamorphic distortion or is that what you like? I wonder because I have put off thinking of the composition elements as this picture is one I'd correct. But maybe that not meant to be, LOL!

Asher
 

Anna Lee

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I think they will not kill the animals by the side of the open road, at least i never see such things occured in such a place. But i have to say that i'm not unfamiliar with this scene, we will see farmers sale their vegetables everyday along a certain road where people will pass by when they get off work, eapecially in small town or even in the Hidden streets of city.

I have nothing more to say, where have good will have bad!
 

Jerome Marot

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Actually, Jerome, killing the animals on the spot means that no refrigeration of meat is required and there's much less chance of getting some infection, unless it comes from the knives. The dose of any contamination will be less simply because there's less bacterial multiplication.

Certainly.

So, Jerome, would you consider correcting the ? anamorphic distortion or is that what you like? I wonder because I have put off thinking of the composition elements as this picture is one I'd correct.

I can try to correct the wide-angle distortion and see if it improves the picture, but I think I like the effect.


I think they will not kill the animals by the side of the open road, at least i never see such things occured in such a place. But i have to say that i'm not unfamiliar with this scene, we will see farmers sale their vegetables everyday along a certain road where people will pass by when they get off work, eapecially in small town or even in the Hidden streets of city.


As I said, it is the only time I saw such a side road butcher and I believe it to be uncommon. Farmers selling their vegetables is something I saw very often.


This is an enlargement of the relevant part of the picture: blood and plucked feathers:

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fahim mohammed

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Jerome, I like the uncorrected perspective.

Where better to sell your small produce than at a road crossing!!

I like the contradiction between the very modern and the way it was/is.

Thanks for sharing.
 

Jerome Marot

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I really like this series, I hope that you will continue?

Well... I did not intend this thread as a series. I did not take that many pictures in Shanghai. The heat was the most brutal I experienced in my life, maybe that was the reason.

I can post a few disparate pictures, that is all.

Place of worship

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Jerome Marot

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And in this park, there are public movie screenings at night (something about a virtuous Chinese soldier, I did not understand everything).


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fahim mohammed

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Jerome, are these recent images ? I have never been to Shanghai ( would love to ), but I am pleasantly

surprised that things of the past survive despite the relentless pace of modernization.

Enjoying your images.

Regards.
 

Jean Henderson

New member
Hi Jerome,

Like Fahim, I both like the perspective of the first image and the old culture surviving in the new. The last image also shows this in a way, too, because, before movies, I bet that folks stayed outside in groups when the sun went down.

Jean
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Jerome, are these recent images ? I have never been to Shanghai ( would love to ), but I am pleasantly surprised that things of the past survive despite the relentless pace of modernization

China is an interesting mixture of tradition and modernity indeed. The pictures are from 2009. The astute reader may want to check the exif and will probably find out why I went to Shanghai... ;)
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
before movies, I bet that folks stayed outside in groups when the sun went down.

Actually, they still do that.

This was summer and the heat is brutal during the day. I mean it: it is over 40°C, 100% humidity and not a hint of a breeze. Really: I have been to pretty hot countries, and this was the worst I ever experienced. So when the sun sets and the air cools a bit, people get out and enjoy the evening.

Children have their own ways to deal about the heat (I have shown that picture before):

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