Jane Auburn
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Isn't there a way to "show all" remarks in a thread rather than hitting pages 2, 3, etc.? That's really unnecessary from a user standpoint.
Nill Toulme said:I like the idea. I imagine the x-posts-per-page structure goes back to low bandwidth days. OTOH, when traffic starts getting high, dumping the whole thread down the pipe every time somebody looks at one could start to cause bandwidth problems on the server side.
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Yes, especially at times when "reloading" of pages is slow at the site, as happens from time to time.scott kirkpatrick said:show all is really valuable when a thread has 2-5 pages built up.
I maintain an archive of each of the several mailing lists that I'm subscribed to on my HD. My e-mail client offers threaded views, and some of the threads on one, especially, of my mailing lists have become quite long. And yet I am presented no fundamental difficulty with the view on-screen--only the need for a horizontal scrollbar for threads that have many sub-threads.When it gets longer than that, it would be nice to have "show the rest" as an option, meaning all pages subsequent to the present position. The RawWorkFlow and Pixmantec forums had "show all," and I am sure it is pretty common. I have never seen "show the rest," but doesn't it make sense?
Jane Auburn said:Isn't there a way to "show all" remarks in a thread rather than hitting pages 2, 3, etc.? That's really unnecessary from a user standpoint.
Hi Jane,Jane Auburn said:Isn't there a way to "show all" remarks in a thread rather than hitting pages 2, 3, etc.? That's really unnecessary from a user standpoint.
Nikolai Sklobovsky said:As to the "display them all" - this is hardly a feasible option.
So while it maybe ok for small threads, it's not gonna work for the long ones.
I've seen threads with the hundreds of posts, you really don't want to wait for a single page like that to load...
this, so you won't even ever need "show all"
Erik DeBill said:I understand where it's good for saving clicks, but there are some technical reasons to avoid it.
How often do you read a full 150 page thread in one sitting? If you only read 10 pages, then the bandwidth for the other 140 can be saved.
Erik DeBill said:The dirty secret is that advertising supported sites like to increase the number of pageviews and thus advertising impressions.
Jane Auburn said:Concerns about bandwidth usage for a site that's primarily text-based are misplaced and usually voiced by people who have little to no experience running a web site. Allowing "click all" will certainly not increase the bandwidth usage of a site like this appreciably. In fact, this site is so "undiscovered" that if I were the administrators, I would be rushing to add any possible convenience to attract and retain users.
Jane Auburn said:Here I don't follow you at all. Page views are not increased by "show all." They're decreased. In any case, I made a suggestion. It's a good one. Take it or leave it.
Sean DeMerchant said:Less posts per page forces more page views which increases the number of ad impressions.
Jane Auburn said:"Page views" is the oldest and least desirable payment system for Internet advertisers. Google ads--almost ubiquitous now--pay out by the click, not by the view, in the vast majority of cases. Anyway, let's get real: the only "dirty little secret" so far as this photography forum stuff goes is that these forums don't make much if anything at all for their proprieters. Fact is they're practically a public service, given the work that goes into it. So let's please dismiss money-grubbing as a motive here and quit pretending that we have the "real scoop" on why or why not "show all" options are hard to find. If anything it's down to the fact that more forums are run by vbulletin, which doesn't have this option, apparently.
Jane Auburn said:Concerns about bandwidth usage for a site that's primarily text-based are misplaced and usually voiced by people who have little to no experience running a web site. Allowing "click all" will certainly not increase the bandwidth usage of a site like this appreciably. In fact, this site is so "undiscovered" that if I were the administrators, I would be rushing to add any possible convenience to attract and retain users.