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Rob Naylor

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I caught this on the banks of a lake in Ireland.
I thought it funny. I imagined he was talking to this alien monolith which had just landed...or maybe that's just me.

Original version
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Cropped version
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James Lemon

Well-known member
I caught this on the banks of a lake in Ireland.
I thought it funny. I imagined he was talking to this alien monolith which had just landed...or maybe that's just me.

9152982051_5b82cc0f40_b.jpg

I like the geometry of this but the line coming out of the corner of the frame bothers me. I would consider shaving a tad off the bottom.
 

Rob Naylor

New member
I like the geometry of this but the line coming out of the corner of the frame bothers me. I would consider shaving a tad off the bottom.

Thanks for the idea James.
I have included the cropped version in the original post.

I have kept the 4:3 format as I am a bit "anal" on my format ratios.
I only do 4:3, 3:4, 1:1, 4:1.5.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I caught this on the banks of a lake in Ireland.
I thought it funny. I imagined he was talking to this alien monolith which had just landed...or maybe that's just me.

Original version
9152982051_5b82cc0f40_b.jpg


Cropped version
9185577002_2c485f5a5f_b.jpg

Rob,

We must assume that you were inspired by your senses and judgement to position yourself and the camera for this unique image. I'm sure you were thrilled at the sight of man confronting the monolith! When you got home, you discovered a disconnect between what you remembered you "saw" and what the dumb camera recorded. One of the hard facts for many of us to accept is that the camera can't recognize humor and irony as we do! So now, one has to reproduce what you felt and what stirred your heart when you framed the scene. Actually you have a lot of tools to bring back what caught you when you made countless decisions to frame the picture in the first place.

So, I'd caution against any cropping at this stage of preparation of the picture, if it's not actually ready for printing. To my mind, (and if this goes against the grain of your natural sense of the build of your pictures, ignore my view), the tonalities, contrast and micro detail of the grass, pathways, clouds and water need to be allocated for your stamp of expression. If not, then isn't this just a snap of what the camera engineers allow to anyone?

The water, especially has potential to help define your key elements.

If you were already certain about the picture, I'd hold back and accept this presentation as your style. But right now, I get the impression that you might have more important choices than cropping, to bring out your man confronting the monolith!

First trust your framing and work on the elements ranking them according to your own wishes. Do what's necessary for the picture to express your imagination of this "theatrical stage" that you are "dressing" for public view. You have lights, texture, shading and more to allocate sparingly or generously to everything you discover. That's how pictures should be prepared after framing outside a studio!

Asher

Of course, if your position was limited by access and the dimensions of the image frame did not fit your composition, then, of course, crop as you intended when you took the picture!
 

Rob Naylor

New member
Rob,

We must assume that you were inspired by your senses and judgement to position yourself and the camera for this unique image. I'm sure you were thrilled at the sight of man confronting the monolith! When you got home, you discovered a disconnect between what you remembered you "saw" and what the dumb camera recorded. One of the hard facts for many of us to accept is that the camera can't recognize humor and irony as we do! So now, one has to reproduce what you felt and what stirred your heart when you framed the scene. Actually you have a lot of tools to bring back what caught you when you made countless decisions to frame the picture in the first place.

So, I'd caution against any cropping at this stage of preparation of the picture, if it's not actually ready for printing. To my mind, (and if this goes against the grain of your natural sense of the build of your pictures, ignore my view), the tonalities, contrast and micro detail of the grass, pathways, clouds and water need to be allocated for your stamp of expression. If not, then isn't this just a snap of what the camera engineers allow to anyone?

The water, especially has potential to help define your key elements.

If you were already certain about the picture, I'd hold back and accept this presentation as your style. But right now, I get the impression that you might have more important choices than cropping, to bring out your man confronting the monolith!

First trust your framing and work on the elements ranking them according to your own wishes. Do what's necessary for the picture to express your imagination of this "theatrical stage" that you are "dressing" for public view. You have lights, texture, shading and more to allocate sparingly or generously to everything you discover. That's how pictures should be prepared after framing outside a studio!

Asher

Of course, if your position was limited by access and the dimensions of the image frame did not fit your composition, then, of course, crop as you intended when you took the picture!

Very interesting comments and observations Asher. Many thanks!
Whilst I may not 100% agree with all your comments, I certainly recognise your mode of thinking.

Whilst this, to me was originally a "quirky" street/candid image of a "man and monolith", I did have the time to move around to create the composition I wanted, albeit there was limits to my movement and the time I had.
I felt that the tree, created a natural frame for the subject, and the two converging paths pushes the eye to the subject, and finally, the subject being placed on the upper RH third was enough "compositional trickery" to force the focus point to the subject yet still create a balanced image (hopefully) :).
James' comment regarding the lower RH corner was a valid one, as the sharp points it created certainly does cause distraction. Hence my re-visit to crop. IMO the crop is an improvement, and I also prefer the tighter space around bottom of the tree.

I am unsure about the tonal value of this photo, it seems to be missing some top end, I would welcome any assistance to add a little punch to the tonal range...
 
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