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The joys of purchasing thru paypal

fahim mohammed

Well-known member
I found a buyer willing to sell me a 'lux 50mm pre-asph. my interesting exchange started
when i tried to pay via paypal. the dialog appears below. i apologize for the length. in all
this I must thank Sweetpea at paypal for his courtesy and willingness to help as you see
below. certain names and e-mail addresses have been supressed.

regards.


The Empire:

Dear fahim mohammed,

xxxxxxx ( abcd@xyz.abc) would like to be paid through PayPal.Money Request Details Amount: $1,555.00 USD
PayPal makes it easy to send xxxxxxx money. Click below to send this payment:
Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team

XXXX I pay and Payment is declined XXXX

ME:
* *
customer * subject: * why * can't * i * pay * pending * payment * by * verified*amex. * *

customer * message: * Additional * Information:
'why * can't * i * make * the * *last * * *payment * with * my * verified * amex? * *

why * am * i * always * selected * for * pw * change * and * questions? * *

why * do * i * always * have * hassles * with * paypal? * *
how * can * i * have * reached * my * spending * limt * on * amex? * *
* *
either * make * it * easy * and * secure, * or * cancel * my * account * and destroy * all * my * *info * with * you * and * confirm.
* ** *
fed * up * with * you * and * e-bay.' *





The Empire:

Dear *Fahim * Mohammed, *
*
Thanks *for *contacting *PayPal's *Customer *Support. *My *name *is SweetPea *and I realize *that *this *situation *can *be *frustrating, *and *appreciate *the opportunity *to *help *you *resolve *this *issue. *
I *do *apologize *for *the *inconvenience *Mr. *Mohammed, *actually *there *is no problem *with *your *credit *card. *Let *me *explain *the *issue. **
To *provide *one *of *the *safest *online *payment *services, *PayPal *reviews every *transaction *before *it *is *approved, *and *occasionally, *we *must limit funding *options *or *decline *a *payment. *These *decisions *consider *every *
aspect *of *the *transaction, *including *the *merchant's *settings *and PayPal's *statistical *models. *From *time *to *time, *these *complex *security measures *may *affect *some *accounts *in *good *standing. *We *regret *any *
inconvenience *this *may *have *caused *you. **
Note: *If *your *transaction *has *been *denied, *you *may *be *able *to *complete the *transaction *using *another *funding *source.
If *you *have *any *further *questions, *please *feel *free *to *contact *us again. **
Sincerely, *


Me:

Hi SweetPea, *
Simple *question. *can *i *or *can't *i *pay *for *this *transaction using *my amex? *
Yes *or *no *will *do.
alternate *funding *sources..i *have *three
cards *on *file *and *none *of *them *work? *
thanks. *







The Empire:

Dear fahim mohammed,

Thank you for taking the time to write to us with your concerns. I am happy to assist you further.

Hi Mr. Mohammed, I am sorry to say this but actually, no! But it does not mean to say that you can no longer use this card anymore. I know this is very frustrating. I would probably feel the same way you are feeling right now but this is part our security for our customers.

Thank you for understanding.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.

Sincerely,

Me:

Hi SweetPea,

Thanks for your response.

please could you arrange to cancel my account with you immediately.

i would like you to confirm that all and any information you hold on myself as a result of my dealing with paypal has been
erased from your records. this *sir is my security measure to protect myself from financial fraud in the future.

your *immediate response is appreciated.
thank you.
 

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Hi Fahim
your story is purely incredible! I trust you haven't any payement problems before with Paypal and that your account at Amex is proviionned enough…
Do you have any suspected explanation to provide? Your name? In the country of freedom ?-)

How can this happen?
 

Gary Ayala

New member
Why are you so upset ... it is all about you and your security. It is obvious that Paypal feels that you spending $1,500 on a LENS is way too much and won't allow you to waste your money in that fashion. You should feel blessed that you are falling into their "statistical models" and feel safe in their parental hands.

Gary
 

fahim mohammed

Well-known member
Nicolas, no i have not had any problems before with them.

i checked all card issuers, and none of them has any problems with my cards. all my cards
have limits to easily cover this payment. for amex, there is no limit and on checking with them they
were surprised too!

my guess, and it is only a guess..certain ethnicity are always ' random samples' chosen for
whatever checks. my name and origin might not help either! anyway that's the way it is and i am
sure thankful to God that i can pay in dollars, liras, marks,francs and maybe in barrels! that they don't
refuse!

Regards.

Hi Fahim
your story is purely incredible! I trust you haven't any payement problems before with Paypal and that your account at Amex is proviionned enough…
Do you have any suspected explanation to provide? Your name? In the country of freedom ?-)

How can this happen?
 

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
The main part of your reply (the one to me) is clear enough… as for the last, Im not sure God (anyone it could be) has anything to do with all this, but this is a personal opinion! See no offense ! I'm just believing in human houghts and acts (wether they are good or bad) only…

BTW did you find a way to make your purchase?
 

fahim mohammed

Well-known member
Gary, not upset...frustrated at unexplained delays. i don't know if they know prices of lenses
these days!

regards.

Why are you so upset ... it is all about you and your security. It is obvious that Paypal feels that you spending $1,500 on a LENS is way too much and won't allow you to waste your money in that fashion. You should feel blessed that you are falling into their "statistical models" and feel safe in their parental hands.

Gary
 

fahim mohammed

Well-known member
Nicolas, first, no offense taken at all.

I shall effect payment thru iban/swift.

Permit me to say ' may the force be with you '.



The main part of your reply (the one to me) is clear enough… as for the last, Im not sure God (anyone it could be) has anything to do with all this, but this is a personal opinion! See no offense ! I'm just believing in human houghts and acts (wether they are good or bad) only…

BTW did you find a way to make your purchase?
 
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