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My World: The Lavender Pit

My wife and I ventured out yesterday for some sightseeing at nearby places that we had not seen yet in our five years of living in Arizona. We drove to Bisbee and then to Tombstone, AZ. This was the first thing we came across near Bisbee. It is the remains of the Lavender open pit copper mine. They stopped production here in 1974. I guess it was just left as is, for us to look at. I am still processing how I feel about this gigantic hole left in what was originally a very different landscape. I understand in our society, to feed our hunger for nifty and useful things, we "need" copper. I also understand that there probably, at least now, is no other way to get at this copper other than by moving mountains. Maybe someday there will be alternatives. What do you think?
James

The Lavender Open Pit Copper Mine - Cochise County, Arizona

 

Paul Abbott

New member
Hey James, this is a very striking aspect of this copper mine and a good photographic document. The pitch black lake sure is striking too amongst all that strata...it almost looks like you could fall through it.

As for our need and drain on all these resources, it always seems to me that man won't be happy until he's drained this planet dry of all it has to offer. But then comes even more unhappiness because there sure ain't no measures in place in having to live without these resources once they're all used up...
As I get older the world seems to get madder...We currently have an issue with 'power' resources and how we'll keep the lights on. At the same time we are creating more and more appliances and electronics that rely on being powered and will drain this resource all the more...we are slowly but surely edging our way towards existing between a rock and a hard place.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
.................I also understand that there probably, at least now, is no other way to get at this copper other than by moving mountains. Maybe someday there will be alternatives. What do you think?
James

The Lavender Open Pit Copper Mine - Cochise County, Arizona



James,

This is bad and good. The bad has been already done. However, copper is being recycled as the cost of mining, even like this and extraction is very high. Recycling will increase as countries tax energy use for the smelting and resultant thermal and carbon footprint.

I imagine a huge open air stadium or theater like in Roman times. Hopefully, it could be put to some good use and still retain the awe of this outcome of thirst for copper!

Asher
 
Thanks for the looks and responses. Until now I really never thought about copper, where it came from, or how it was mined. I knew Arizona was nicknamed the Copper State but never really thought about why or what that really meant. Seeing this particular mine prompted me to start looking into it a little more. There are actually two working mines only a short distance from my home but they are so well disguised on their outer limits that you really don't know what's going on on the other side of the hill that you see. It's only through photos, tours, or aerial views can you really get a glimpse at what they are doing there. We are going to take one of their tours soon because I want to see what is going on in my own backyard. I'll be sure to share what I find.

I did discover that Arizona is the largest producer of copper in the country. In fact, in the entire world, only Chile produces more copper than Arizona. As both of you pointed out, this may not really be a good thing in the greater scheme of things, but for Arizona it is a great source of revenue and I think we all know, that is truly the driving force in this whole thing. It all boils down to money in one way or another. Whether it is good or bad is up to each of our own interpretations I suppose. Either way, from my layman's point of view, it is extremely interesting how they go about extracting the copper from the earth and the processing that goes into it. As a child I always played with my big Tonka dump trucks, shovels, and graders and pretended that I was moving the earth and building huge projects. Now as an adult, I think I may be channeling that child again by wanting to take this tour and see these giant trucks, shovels, dynamite blasting, and every other thing that they use when moving these mountains. I can't help myself.
 
Wow, it looks so depressing like that. It also looks huge. It would be cool if they could transform it into something more pleasing. I know some mining pits are rehabilitated to be reused as recreational lakes, for example. Of course, it takes effort to do this. But if you are taking from the earth, perhaps it's just fair to give back.
Claying the pit to stop acidification of the water and seeding the upper layers to grow grasses etc. would be needed, I believe. Once grass starts to grow, they can then expect other vegetation to grow and slowly birds etc., would be attracted to the area. Filled with water, it could be a really nice area for small sailboats etc.,
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Unfortunately, this image only shows part of the problem. We dig a hole to get copper, but there is only a tiny amount of copper in the ore. Treating the ore is messy stuff and there must be a big pile of treated waste ore somewhere.
 
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