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Thorpe Vale Trout Fishery, Ludford, Market Rasen, Lincolnshire HDR Photography
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Doug Kerr
Well-known member
Hi, Dan,
So, what is the dynamic range of these images?
Or perhaps, what was the dynamic range of these scenes?
Best regards,
Doug
So, what is the dynamic range of these images?
Or perhaps, what was the dynamic range of these scenes?
Best regards,
Doug
Mike Shimwell
New member
Dan
I offer my coment as just another pciture maker. I thnk these would benefit from less HDR/tonemapping treatment - which replaces/flattens global dynamics and overstates local dynamics - and from a more straightforward approach.As Cem woud say, I'd ikey be in monochrome as well.
If you take a less styised approach then you will start to see the subject and what you make of it compositionally, i.e. how you see it, take precedence over the style.
Not suggesting you try this, but it's worth a read.
Best
Mike
I offer my coment as just another pciture maker. I thnk these would benefit from less HDR/tonemapping treatment - which replaces/flattens global dynamics and overstates local dynamics - and from a more straightforward approach.As Cem woud say, I'd ikey be in monochrome as well.
If you take a less styised approach then you will start to see the subject and what you make of it compositionally, i.e. how you see it, take precedence over the style.
Not suggesting you try this, but it's worth a read.
Best
Mike
Ruben Alfu
New member
Hi Dan,
I like these images much better than the ones you posted before, there's a significant improvement here. I like the combination of cold and warm tones, and soft and sharp areas. The scenery is gorgeous but not impressive and the compositions are pleasant but very much standard. The virtue of these images seems to have been reserved to your interpretation of the landscape in terms of its dynamic range. I might be wrong, but if this was the case, it would be just fine and cool.
HDR is a very challenging technique. It takes a good amount of tech skills and a solid artistic vision to create a tasteful image without the distraction of digital artifacts, or excessive digital eye candy.
IMO these photos can be polished more technically, you could filter more your choices for subject and play more with the composition. Of course, it all depends on your artistic intent, on the way you envision these images, which should include a conscious reason why you are choosing to use HDR in the first place (and again, a simple fascination for the HDR look is a pretty honest reason, pure aesthetics, paraphrasing Marshall McLuhan, "the image is the message", it happens all over the spectrum of visual arts).
Regards,
Ruben
I like these images much better than the ones you posted before, there's a significant improvement here. I like the combination of cold and warm tones, and soft and sharp areas. The scenery is gorgeous but not impressive and the compositions are pleasant but very much standard. The virtue of these images seems to have been reserved to your interpretation of the landscape in terms of its dynamic range. I might be wrong, but if this was the case, it would be just fine and cool.
HDR is a very challenging technique. It takes a good amount of tech skills and a solid artistic vision to create a tasteful image without the distraction of digital artifacts, or excessive digital eye candy.
IMO these photos can be polished more technically, you could filter more your choices for subject and play more with the composition. Of course, it all depends on your artistic intent, on the way you envision these images, which should include a conscious reason why you are choosing to use HDR in the first place (and again, a simple fascination for the HDR look is a pretty honest reason, pure aesthetics, paraphrasing Marshall McLuhan, "the image is the message", it happens all over the spectrum of visual arts).
Regards,
Ruben
Man you guys get too technical for me lol.. i am just experimenting with HDR using the photomatix software which was recommended to me, so whilst visiting my favorite local stillwater fishing spot in the dull, cloudy weather yesterday evening i took a couple of pics to run through the program to experiment with, i like these as they are but maybe thats just the personal connection to me, especially photo 2 as thats the exact spot i usually like to fish from & it reminds me of being stood in that spot relaxing & fishing! i will endeveaour to get some non HDR shots of the place during a better weather interval too!
i dont know how to even begin to tell you this??? lol..
Doug Kerr
Well-known member
Hi, Dan,
But my concern is when we speak of "HDR" work, where presumably "HDR" mean "high dynamic range", we should probably have some idea (even if not quantitative) what dynamic range we are speaking of and why it is "high".
So maybe a more fair question would be, "what about the work you showed us is 'high dynamic range'? "
Best regards,
Doug
Well, I was just pulling your leg!
But my concern is when we speak of "HDR" work, where presumably "HDR" mean "high dynamic range", we should probably have some idea (even if not quantitative) what dynamic range we are speaking of and why it is "high".
So maybe a more fair question would be, "what about the work you showed us is 'high dynamic range'? "
Best regards,
Doug
again??? i like the look of some HDR photography, so again i thought i would experiment, so took 4 photos on different exposures & merged them in the photomatix program & then selected which i personally thought looked best to me!
jake klein
Member
You missed his question again! Well I think you did. I believe what he is asking is this, was the dynamic range of the scene at hand greater than your camera's ability to capture? Could you have captured the scenes luminosity with one exposure? Is luminosity the right word here, sorry if it is not.
Also be care when you say you like the "look of HDR photography" as it's purpose has been smeared by grunge. Many believe bracketing or "HDR" should be used when ones sensor or film cannot capture the scenes luminosity in a single exposre.
Not saying the overcooked look is bad, I happen to like many "overdone" HDR photographs.
you all seem to go deeper than is necessary, as far as im aware hdr photography is the merging of photographs with different exposures, or at least this is what i am lead to believe, as for all these unnecesary technicalities you keep mentioning it means absolutely nothing to me yet??? it was a dull evening i wanted to experiment with the new hdr software i now have, so i did! and to me it really is as simple as that!
Mike Shimwell
New member
Dan
Don't worry! There are a lot of people here with a range of experience and expertise.
There's nothing wrong with experimenting and playing and seeing if you like the results. On the other hand, the aim here is to help one another develop as photographers. This can work out in lots of ways - sometimes technical help, others artistic suggestions or again suggested reading.
I suggested a link that is focused on how people learn to see photogaphically. Mike Johnston has clear interests, but his point is valid and useful. The comments contain arguments for and against his suggestion that are often illuminating in themselves. There is technical side to making photographs, but whilst it is clear that you need to know enough to get where you're going, you need to find out where that is at some stage.
Someone like Cem, on here, uses HDR techniques very subtley (usually!) to deliver his own view of the world. But he came to use the very technical approach as a result of what he wants to achieve. At one time he would have been a natural for a view camera (google is your friend) and would have spent his life under a back cloth.
Best
Mike
Don't worry! There are a lot of people here with a range of experience and expertise.
There's nothing wrong with experimenting and playing and seeing if you like the results. On the other hand, the aim here is to help one another develop as photographers. This can work out in lots of ways - sometimes technical help, others artistic suggestions or again suggested reading.
I suggested a link that is focused on how people learn to see photogaphically. Mike Johnston has clear interests, but his point is valid and useful. The comments contain arguments for and against his suggestion that are often illuminating in themselves. There is technical side to making photographs, but whilst it is clear that you need to know enough to get where you're going, you need to find out where that is at some stage.
Someone like Cem, on here, uses HDR techniques very subtley (usually!) to deliver his own view of the world. But he came to use the very technical approach as a result of what he wants to achieve. At one time he would have been a natural for a view camera (google is your friend) and would have spent his life under a back cloth.
Best
Mike
Mike Shimwell
New member
Just a thought, if you read the first link then (afterwards) you might like to read the follow up
Mike
Mike