Jim Olson
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It snowed last night but we wanted to go for a motorcycle ride today.
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Went on a short 140 mile motorcycle ride today
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Jim Olson
Well-known member
Stopped for a short break & had to take another shot of the snow.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Great fun, Jim!
Which bike is yours and who do you ride with?
How much traffic on the roads?
Asher
Which bike is yours and who do you ride with?
How much traffic on the roads?
Asher
Jim Olson
Well-known member
From left to right Dan's 2018 Honda GoldWing, Dick rides a newer Harley, ( didn't ask what year (my bad but just met today)) & then my 1980 Honda GoldWing.
Not much traffic on the Hwy today. We rode Hwy 101 for 70 miles then turned around in Hoodsport.
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Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I sort of recognized the Harley. Was 98% sure!
is it 140 miles round trip?
Do you take the women with?
Asher
is it 140 miles round trip?
Do you take the women with?
Asher
nicolas claris
OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Don't you think that the corona virus is spread enough? Not enough death in the US?
Is it so difficult to understand that in order to protect you and others, you have to stay HOME!
Sorry for being so harsh…
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Nicolas,
You make a good point at the guys stopping off at a restaurant!!! 👮♀️
However, riding the bike in the open air cannot endanger anyone unless he has a road accident and then brings his virus to the rescue ambulance and police!
So yes, I agree that this is not as safe as staying at home.
But I admit, that until you mentioned it I never thought of this being a hazard to other folk, as here going for a LOCAL short exercise is considered fine.
However it's ilkegal to go on a beach.
But now you mention it, it does appear a danger to the first responders and the restaurant!
Asher
You make a good point at the guys stopping off at a restaurant!!! 👮♀️
However, riding the bike in the open air cannot endanger anyone unless he has a road accident and then brings his virus to the rescue ambulance and police!
So yes, I agree that this is not as safe as staying at home.
But I admit, that until you mentioned it I never thought of this being a hazard to other folk, as here going for a LOCAL short exercise is considered fine.
However it's ilkegal to go on a beach.
But now you mention it, it does appear a danger to the first responders and the restaurant!
Asher
nicolas claris
OPF Co-founder/Administrator
My attitude? Are you kidding?
There is no relation between being careful, respecting health instructions such as social distancing and emptying supermarket shelves...
Jim Olson
Well-known member
The restaurant only lets one person in at a time (and they have many tables outside) & they bring the food out to people with gloves. Also, we didn't sit at the tables, we did stand 6 or more feet apart. I just got a cup of coffee, one guy got ice cream & the other guy got fries.
No harm no foul...
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Will,
Back off, Nicolas is right!
Please! He’s correct cautioning Jim.
I myself was so happy to see the bikes, I didn’t think of safety (and risk to the ICU beds), myself. It so happens Jim and pals were very safe.
But one thing staying off the road with bikes does: cuts the demand on first responders and need for ICU beds for road accidents!
Taking food off the shelves, however, deprives the nurses coming off 48 hour shifts, (exhausted and traumatized by horror), of fresh fruit and vegetables before they go back to work and face death!
Asher
Back off, Nicolas is right!
Please! He’s correct cautioning Jim.
I myself was so happy to see the bikes, I didn’t think of safety (and risk to the ICU beds), myself. It so happens Jim and pals were very safe.
But one thing staying off the road with bikes does: cuts the demand on first responders and need for ICU beds for road accidents!
Taking food off the shelves, however, deprives the nurses coming off 48 hour shifts, (exhausted and traumatized by horror), of fresh fruit and vegetables before they go back to work and face death!
Asher
nicolas claris
OPF Co-founder/Administrator
"According to the Chinese teams, 80% of patients with symptoms (cough, fever, breathing difficulties, etc.) have been contaminated through contact with asymptomatic or paucisymptomatic patients. These people who have no symptoms or few symptoms do not know that they are infected with the virus," says Prof. Ravaud.
As a result, any contact between individuals within one or even one and a half meters (subway, café, concert, supermarket, meal, mass ...) is potentially contaminating. Any close contact is a godsend for the virus.
"According to the Chinese teams, 80% of patients with symptoms (cough, fever, breathing difficulties, etc.) have been contaminated through contact with asymptomatic or paucisymptomatic patients. These people who have no symptoms or few symptoms do not know that they are infected with the virus," says Prof. Ravaud.
As a result, any contact between individuals within one or even one and a half meters (subway, café, concert, supermarket, meal, mass ...) is potentially contaminating. Any close contact is a godsend for the virus.
In the absence of any measures, there could have been, according to projections, between 40 and 60% of the French population infected. In order to reduce the peak of the epidemic and to limit the influence of this peak on the health system, it was absolutely necessary to take social distancing measures (closing of schools, restrictions on movement, containment) to prevent the virus from spreading from one to the other
Let's comply with containment regulations. Let's stay home. Let's restrict movement. Avoid going shopping every day. Stay at a safe distance from people we pass, at least 1 meter, 2 meters if possible. This is how, together, we will block the virus," concludes the specialist.
Dr Sophie Parienté
Source
As a result, any contact between individuals within one or even one and a half meters (subway, café, concert, supermarket, meal, mass ...) is potentially contaminating. Any close contact is a godsend for the virus.
"According to the Chinese teams, 80% of patients with symptoms (cough, fever, breathing difficulties, etc.) have been contaminated through contact with asymptomatic or paucisymptomatic patients. These people who have no symptoms or few symptoms do not know that they are infected with the virus," says Prof. Ravaud.
As a result, any contact between individuals within one or even one and a half meters (subway, café, concert, supermarket, meal, mass ...) is potentially contaminating. Any close contact is a godsend for the virus.
In the absence of any measures, there could have been, according to projections, between 40 and 60% of the French population infected. In order to reduce the peak of the epidemic and to limit the influence of this peak on the health system, it was absolutely necessary to take social distancing measures (closing of schools, restrictions on movement, containment) to prevent the virus from spreading from one to the other
Let's comply with containment regulations. Let's stay home. Let's restrict movement. Avoid going shopping every day. Stay at a safe distance from people we pass, at least 1 meter, 2 meters if possible. This is how, together, we will block the virus," concludes the specialist.
Dr Sophie Parienté
Source
Jerome Marot
Well-known member
To understand Nicolas reaction, one has to know that France has gotten quite paranoid on the "stay at home" trip. They have closed rivers, forests, whatever. In rural areas people cannot go out to tend their gardens. There is of course little scientific basis for that... except in large cities like Paris where, if you allow people to step in the open, the public "open" is so small that it is instantly overcrowded.
We are luckier in Munich: we can go outside, provided we don't gather in groups. The police keeps an eye on that.
Personally, I stand by the rule: "don't go anywhere closer than 2m from anyone". As I have had light symptoms of a sore throat lately, I now wear a face mask inside of groceries shops, in the case I would be infectious to others.
A close colleague at work was infected 2 weeks ago (and may have passed it to me at the time) and had only light symptoms. My mother, who is 80 with bad lungs, was most probably infected a month ago, as a close friend of her was tested positive. She is still under antibiotics for her lungs (an opportunistic infection, probably) but is otherwise fine.
Meanwhile, the death toll is over 64 thousands and climbing and hospitals are full in several countries. Even it, for the majority of people, it is little more than a cold, you don't want to pass it around.
We are luckier in Munich: we can go outside, provided we don't gather in groups. The police keeps an eye on that.
Personally, I stand by the rule: "don't go anywhere closer than 2m from anyone". As I have had light symptoms of a sore throat lately, I now wear a face mask inside of groceries shops, in the case I would be infectious to others.
A close colleague at work was infected 2 weeks ago (and may have passed it to me at the time) and had only light symptoms. My mother, who is 80 with bad lungs, was most probably infected a month ago, as a close friend of her was tested positive. She is still under antibiotics for her lungs (an opportunistic infection, probably) but is otherwise fine.
Meanwhile, the death toll is over 64 thousands and climbing and hospitals are full in several countries. Even it, for the majority of people, it is little more than a cold, you don't want to pass it around.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
You have a right to add 18 sugars to your drink. You are correct: it’s your body. However, when folks behavior risks other people’s chance of living in this pandemic, that’s unacceptable, even wicked once they have been informed.
You don’t have an independant right to infect me, to satisfy your free will
Nicolas and Jerome know it’s real Europeans have been massacred by asymptomatic infected virus infected spreaders
Back off now my good friend
Asher
Jim Olson
Well-known member
In my state, they say to go out and excise but just don't get closer than 6 feet. Also I live in a small town. I can walk down the street & see maybe 2 people walking on the other side of the street. My town only has 7,000 people in it. Nothing like where I just moved from. Chico California has 90,000 people in the town and it's not even considered a large town. So, I'm sorry if I upset the world with my post of myself & only 2 of the 20 members of my club going for a ride. Next week I won't post pictures of my ride.
Jim Olson
Well-known member
It a toss up as to who goes on a ride with me. My wife & Lars both love to ride but they don't like the cold as much as I do. It was only 45° F (7.2 C) and why do hospitals keep it so cold. To combat bacteria.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
For my part, Jim, I wish you safety as you have had since riding as a teenager! I know you are skilled.
Just, in general, and certainly here in Los Angeles, my need for an ICU bed could kill another human as I could take the last ventilator or the other way around!
Once intubated, one owns the machine 1/2 the nurse, 1/10 of the pulmonologist for weeks or until death!
So I pray for your safety and still love your pictures as you are our eyes and ears to the world.
Asher
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
In California, people are allowed to exercise near home but at safe 2 meter distance.
I realize that France has different education about the nature of the infection and is much more strict.
But here, we are doing a good job locally. Seattle has given back its emergency army hospital to the Federal Government to redeploy elsewhere for those in desperate need. Also they have sent some of their ICU ventilators to New York where life is grim!
On the whole, our city roads are almost empty.
The only foolish thing is the supermarkets being open when all food should be delivered by protected couriers!
Asher
I realize that France has different education about the nature of the infection and is much more strict.
But here, we are doing a good job locally. Seattle has given back its emergency army hospital to the Federal Government to redeploy elsewhere for those in desperate need. Also they have sent some of their ICU ventilators to New York where life is grim!
On the whole, our city roads are almost empty.
The only foolish thing is the supermarkets being open when all food should be delivered by protected couriers!
Asher
Jim Olson
Well-known member
Also, I carry & use hand sanitizer, I have disposable plastic gloves to touch the pin pads & pump at the gas stations. I'm being safe and still getting out and doing what I love.
Riding & taking pictures.
Riding & taking pictures.
nicolas claris
OPF Co-founder/Administrator
You have to be really stupid and stubborn, or you didn't read my post #12.
I'm not afraid, I'm just civic-minded, I don't want to "catch" cove-19 or pass it on. Who would I be to take such a risk?
In France, 3 weeks ago, we didn't think we would have to live through an epidemic similar to the one in Italy, which is just 1 week ahead of us... And here we are, look at the curves of the number of infected people and the number of deaths, they are just parallel with a 7 days delay...
Like the UK, the USA made the same mistake (listen again to Mr. Trump!), as a result soon the world center of the pandemic will move from Europe to the USA.
I am not afraid. I am aware.
And no, I don’t make any stocks of paper toilets, I wash my ass with soap and water instead. It is softer.
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Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Will,
Enough! As a good friend please listen to my request and sincere advice.
You are just locked into a concept that personal whims are more important than any incremental safety caution can bring.
That’s you. You can go to the supermarket as that is essential to eat if you don’t order in. However pleasure trips are now being recognized as rather selfish.
The Chief Dr. In Scotland went for a 40 minute drive for fun. She has been forced to resign her important job.
The expert view is to only allow core jobs and necessary journeys. You may disagree but that doesn’t mean others are panicking!
Asher