Thank you Fahim!I am dark enough!!
But whatever rocks one's boat!
Excellent updated and modern looking site. To Nicolas, yourself and all ( those who just worked, waited and/or prayed )..well done!!
Good luck and good OPFing.
p.s The forum ' Pet's Corner '..is something missing in the description?
Text not bright enough…Doug, Jerome and Nicolas et al
Examining the two side by side gives me two impressions:
1. Next to the golden Sienna colors of the OPF banner, buttons and bars, the actually pure neutral blacks and greys seem, on my iPhone 6+ At least, to be fused with dark chocolate,(with a tad of green-mint perhaps. At least that’s my perception! In my color-calibrated Eizo monitor, however, blacks are pure to the eye.
Sometimes, even on the Eizo 21” monitor, in narrow areas next to the Sienna banners or text I might be fooled that perhaps there is a very sparse contamination with brown. But I am not certain of this possibility as mostly blacks appear clean and pure.
So this could either be a perception issue on a small screen or else, perhaps the Apple iPhone is not representing colors as well as one would expect.
Well this has been measured here and in bright areas of the gamut, only in the red-magenta area of the gamut do iphones appear to start deviate from reference colors to 3 “perception units”. They do not show data for colors centered on black. This could have the larger perceived differences, (that I have become convinced of), with pure blacks on the iPhone 6+. If I find any definitive data I will update this comment!
Such differences, real or perceived, could have significance in any desire to edit photos on line with an iPhone and likely other mobiles!
2. The brightness of the text in the original “Dark” style provides strong and even extreme contrast, while in the “OPF Dark” style, the text is far less bright and so, as Doug points out, the text, while beautiful and restful, might not have optimal contrast for everyone’s taste and needs.
However, I believe this “OPF Dark” style is close to fabulous! But can we do better with it as one of the choices derived from all Nicolas’ huge design effort which got us going!
So examine these styles and look at other sources and let me know if we should try to develop a version of “OPF Dark” style with somewhat brighter text?
I had not paid much attention to the "Dark" style. Indeed on it the text is white at not quite maximum luminance. And yet an overall look at a page makes me score it as "less beautiful".
This is often the dilemma faced by graphic designers, as they try and balance "beauty" with "usability". The two are certainly not usually incompatible, but are often at least antagonistic. (There are fabulous stories about the design agonies of several classical telephone sets!)
I am confident that the design team can find a design that gives us both to a high degree.
And of course, in the meantime, if I really want to read a lot of stuff I can readily switch to "Original OPF". I am grateful for the very accessible style chooser, and even the clever shortcuts, "Lights out" and "Lights on".
I assume you speak in terms of the "Dark OPF" style being in effect.It might be that even 4 would seem very readable if the was an entire paragraph and the others were not there!!
Yes, and my wording was not apt.We are already far above that in the least bright of the new choices.
It could be your screen is not set bright enough, as physiologically you should find the dark bg easier to read.I didn’t know there was an option.
I had a look, couldn’t read it, switched back.
that’s on the assumption that we all see in the same way.It could be your screen is not set bright enough, as physiologically you should find the dark bg easier to read.
This is why most major software MFR, like Adobe, have standardized on a default dark b.g.
Antonio Correia campaigned long and hard for this choice. I love it, but Nicolas prefers his original!
Each his/her own, (depending also on gender self assignment pronoun preferences)!
Its not a matter of preference in the aesthetic sense, Ash, its to do with visual differences related to impairment. Just because "a lot of folk" like it doesn't make it "should" as you put it.Of course you can control it by your preference. That is why we have the options for you. You are not expected to conform to other folks preferences. Nevertheless, a lot of folk find the dark version restful for their eyes and a great bg for images too.
Honestly Tom, we aim to cater for your presentation preference. So if you mock up a page or refer to some other site with a design that is more pleasant or comfortable for your experience, we will endeavor to reproduce that style an additional option for everyone.
You have a point there, Jérôme! I will make a note to disclose that.I routinely check "cookies" on my browser. It came out that OPF sets its own cookie (that is not a problem), but also let the following two domains set their own cookie:
To comply with the GDPR, OPF should inform their users about these cookies and let them opt-out.
As to myself, I decided to block the two domains directly at the router. Time will tell whether there are ill effects.