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My World: Yellow Triangle - Geometry in a Flower

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Michael,

Wonderful result. I'm amazed how the antlers line up. Have you developed a feel for how this might be different from other RAW processors, especially as calculations can be done in LAB color space.

I see no hint of editable masks yet or layers.

Asher
 
Michael, I just was doing the exact same thing today, taking pictures of a tulip so share the fun it is to photograph them. This is a wonderful result! Well done. :)
Maggie
 

Michael Nagel

Well-known member
Asher,

Thanks. I will have t play with it for a while to see how it compares. Darktable is basically a raw converter with adjustments. It works quite well but I think I am just at the beginning of the learning curve.
There is also rawtherapee and ufraw on my computer - I will try these as well. Both are based on dcraw, but rawtherapee offers more options on demosaicing.

Layer- well I think a look into GIMP is what you need. I don't know if you saw what I linked here, but as GIMP is switching to 16bit it is becoming more interesting.

Best regards,

Michael
 

Michael Nagel

Well-known member
Maggie,

Thanks! It is not a Tulip in my case, but la lot smaller. I will have to post more to make it clear.

Best regards,
Michael
 

Robert Watcher

Well-known member
Michael - I can see and appreciate the symmetry in your photograph. One distracting part for me is the lack of depth of field and there really being no part of the photo in focus other than a few surfaces here and there. I find that many photographers have a hard time thinking about closing their lens aperture down in such closeup images. We get so used to having fast lenses and shooting wide because it has such an appeal. There is of course artistic value in using a wider aperture and shallower depth of field with flowers - - - but in a similar situation as you have here, you may find that even closing down to f11 or f16 would still provide a great shallow DOF while displaying the tips in perfect clarity. Not saying I am not enjoying your image - - - just something you may wish to try in the future.



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Michael Nagel

Well-known member
Michael - I can see and appreciate the symmetry in your photograph. One distracting part for me is the lack of depth of field and there really being no part of the photo in focus other than a few surfaces here and there. I find that many photographers have a hard time thinking about closing their lens aperture down in such closeup images. We get so used to having fast lenses and shooting wide because it has such an appeal. There is of course artistic value in using a wider aperture and shallower depth of field with flowers - - - but in a similar situation as you have here, you may find that even closing down to f11 or f16 would still provide a great shallow DOF while displaying the tips in perfect clarity. Not saying I am not enjoying your image - - - just something you may wish to try in the future.

Robert,

Relax - these were casual snaps in a restaurant waiting to be served and - thanks for pointing me to the obvious. I know the relationship between f-stop and DoF and was pretty aware of it when shooting, but decided against lengthy tries as I wanted to enjoy the meal arriving.
BTW - I was shooting using a 16Mpix FT camera (EXIF is there when you follow the link), so f11 to f16 would be in a range where diffraction starts becoming an issue, at least on larger prints, not on the small resolution I posted.

I tried to put the 'Fun' prefix in front of the subject, but it didn't work for me - Asher, is this something you could fix?

Relax.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Michael
 

Michael Nagel

Well-known member
Maggie,

Thanks. Yes, these are small. We were in a restaurant close to the pedestrian zone in Munich - we like to go there from time to time.

Darktable is indeed similar to Lightroom, but it is open source. I just started playing with it and I am still on the lower end of the learning curve, but it is promising and I will continue with it.

If you are using Linux or OS-X - install it and try. For Windows users there is a live system booting Linux with darktable, good for a first try, but a pain to work with (loading times).

Best regards,
Michael
 

Robert Watcher

Well-known member
Robert,

Relax - these were casual snaps in a restaurant waiting to be served and - thanks for pointing me to the obvious. I know the relationship between f-stop and DoF and was pretty aware of it when shooting, but decided against lengthy tries as I wanted to enjoy the meal arriving.
BTW - I was shooting using a 16Mpix FT camera (EXIF is there when you follow the link), so f11 to f16 would be in a range where diffraction starts becoming an issue, at least on larger prints, not on the small resolution I posted.

I tried to put the 'Fun' prefix in front of the subject, but it didn't work for me - Asher, is this something you could fix?

Relax.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Michael

Don't worry Michael - - - I'm relaxed. Not everyone sees the obvious. I wasn't challenging your choice. Just something I commonly see with photographs of such content on the dozen or so photography forums that I visit each day. Sorry to have offended.



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