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A long answer on what morality and ethics might refer to!

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
This discussion comes out of Nicolas' thread here on the question of pictures outside a series of pictures.

Nicolas,

The guy you shave with likely has a conflict of interest, LOL! :)

So can you, in all good conscience, use an picture of yours for other commercial purposes besides fine art prints? Well the only commitment inherent in selling a limited edition of signed prints is that you will not offer that entity in that form again, beyond the copies already in the series. That's the extent of our promise!

In any case, it's not an issue of morality, which I consider has more to do with deceiving in personal intimate matters where there's an inherent rule such as, "don't sleep with your family members except your spouse", "kids in your scout pack" or "your friends wife". It also would cover taking dangerous public health short cuts in, for example, supplying tainted food to milk to stores and the like. So morality seems to be more about our personal intimacy and safety in family ties and community lifelines.

Ethics is, I'd offer, might best considered a matter of business commerce and power. So there, it's not what one is strong enough to do, rather, it's what one should do. So conflict of interest is unethical. A psychiatrist having sex with his patient is unethical. These may also be illegal but first of all they break the boundaries of trust in a commercial transaction.

Here, the issues are much, much, more trivial! I cannot see that it could ever be a moral problem. It can't even rise to an issue of ethics. you have never committed to not having posters of your work for an exhibition or to welcome the Olympics or for that matter an album cover. You can advertise your own work, make pamphlets or have business cards with the same pictures you sell as a limited edition. It's hardly that form and certainly not as unique.

So I'd go ahead with a clear conscience; you've deceived no one! Just have him insert a link to your website for those interested in your art!

Asher

An academic approach on morals v. ethics would argue that morals are those codified rules in our writings and customs and ethics are the thoughts and rationale behind the sets of moral rules we use as tools to relate, one to another. However, this does not tell you what's practical!
 
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fahim mohammed

Well-known member
Good Nicolas ( sorry for misspelling your name the first time ); at least you have got various pieces of advice.

The more you ask, the more you might get!

This for Asher. I do not want to derail Nicolas's thread; but your musings on morality and ethics would make for a very interesting discussion in it's own! The presumption you make is that everyone might share your views on what is moral and/or ethical.

Nicolas, I wish the you the best, however you decide to proceed.

Kindest regards.

p.s. I shave alone. Always have, always shall. Else grow a beard.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Good Nicolas ( sorry for misspelling your name the first time ); at least you have got various pieces of advice.

The more you ask, the more you might get!

This for Asher. I do not want to derail Nicolas's thread; but your musings on morality and ethics would make for a very interesting discussion in it's own! The presumption you make is that everyone might share your views on what is moral and/or ethical.

Nicolas, I wish the you the best, however you decide to proceed.

Kindest regards.

p.s. I shave alone. Always have, always shall. Else grow a beard.


In any case, it's not an issue of morality, which I consider has more to do with deceiving in personal intimate matters where there's an inherent rule such as, "don't sleep with your family members except your spouse", "kids in your scout pack" or "your friends wife". It also would cover taking dangerous public health short cuts in, for example, supplying tainted food to milk to stores and the like. So morality seems to be more about our personal intimacy and safety in family ties and community lifelines.

Ethics is, I'd offer, might best considered a matter of business commerce and power. So there, it's not what one is strong enough to do, rather, it's what one should do. So conflict of interest is unethical. A psychiatrist having sex with his patient is unethical. These may also be illegal but first of all they break the boundaries of trust in a commercial transaction.


So, Fahim, you can rest, assured that there's no presumption of any agreement by anyone else with my ideas. Rather, I'd hope that I am articulating some of those concepts and values that we might possibly hold in common.

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
So what moral and ethical values do we hold in relationship to photography. Do you have suggestions?

So what are the ethical rules and moral boundaries we follow?

Asher
 

fahim mohammed

Well-known member
So what moral and ethical values do we hold in relationship to photography. Do you have suggestions?

So what are the ethical rules and moral boundaries we follow?

Asher

Asher, you and I ( specifically but not necessarily others ) share much more the same moral and ethical values than the majority here might think possible!

To enumerate each one, even ones related to photography, would open for me a door to a Pandora's box of different value judgements ( each one most probably justifiable from a certain point of view, and questionable from another ).

So, and in this particular instance, I would prefer to keep silent on this matter.
Like you mentioned previously:

I am right; he/she too is right.
We both are right.
How can we both be right.
That too is right.

Regards. :)
 
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