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Helvellyn's Red Tarn (Lake District) HDR

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Dan Siman

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jake klein

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I liked the second pic alot. It is not too "overcooked" as many say. My only nitpicks are the halos across the mountain tops and the reflection in the pond/lake doesn't seem to match the sky.
 
Cem_Usakligil

Cem_Usakligil

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A few weeks ago another member has posted in another thread the comment: "Looks rather grotesque to my eyes". I can't help but feel exactly the same way about these.
 
fahim mohammed

fahim mohammed

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Dan, the Lake District is indeed a beautiful place. I also like to enhance my images, but you are doing
a bit too much here. Your image is beautiful as it is, so a little easy on the HDR..

Have a look at Cem's Lisbon for an HDR.

Regards.
 
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StuartRae

New member
Hi Dan,

Please don't be offended, but I'll stand by my initial thought of "Oh dear!". Sorry.

Which HDR software did you use? The images have the look of Dynamic Photo HDR.

Regards,

Stuart
 
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jake klein

Member
Dan Siman said:
the reflection in the pond is the original reflection so maybe something to do with my bad editing skills!
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Not bad editing skills! Editing skills in progress would be a better way to put it.

Although many people do not like the "grunge" or "surreal" HDR look, if it is something you prefer, stick with it and see where it goes.

It is also a good idea to try to make your bracketed photos as real to life as possible and then add some surreal effects.

One must understand the "rules", so we can break them in a pleasing manner.
 
Cem_Usakligil

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
jake klein said:
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Although many people do not like the "grunge" or "surreal" HDR look, if it is something you prefer, stick with it and see where it goes.

It is also a good idea to try to make your bracketed photos as real to life as possible and then add some surreal effects.

One must understand the "rules", so we can break them in a pleasing manner.
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Fully agreed.
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
It's about the land, sky and water, always; not the painting method!

Cem_Usakligil said:
A few weeks ago another member has posted in another thread the comment: "Looks rather grotesque to my eyes". I can't help but feel exactly the same way about these.
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OTOH, Cem,

To me, it's not even genuinely grotesque, as it's too thin an image and there's no acid bite to it. Rather it's like something that has been printed in an old fashioned laser printer which has run out of toner.

Asher
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
It's about the land, sky and water, always; not the painting method!

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Dan,

First, the good; the subject is no doubt beautiful. The sky has drama. The right near field is anchored with great rocks and the lake should have reflections and a recoverable edge. A projection of a line of rocks from the left side of the water could provide an interesting feature, perfect for HDR work with dimensionality and reflections. So they way I'd approach this is to look at the picture from what the land, water and sky offers. It has to be about this place, before you depart with some grunge rough style. It has to speak of the place not the technique.

Likely as not the proper skills can deliver a good picture you'd be happy with. You should look at SNS-HDR, introduced nicely in Cambridge Colour. Cem, Bart or Ben could rescue the beauty of the view with SNS HDR. I'd personally just work on the RAW in layers and if it's recoverable, the picture would be nice and appealing. Right now the rim around the lake in the first picture is disastrous: no detail! Unless you have a particularly well-thought out plan, blown out white space is more often than not a warning that you have over-shot the mark.

Grunge is something else. It quickly risks going into the realm of kitsch-copycat-nonsense. As has been pointed out, I'd first learn how to accomplish beauty before anything else.

So consider letting others play with the RAW, edit and repost just to see the variations from sharp, clear/beautiful and grunge done well can be compared.

Asher
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Dan Siman said:
ok thanks! where can i upload the raw file for people to have a go at it then??
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That's sporting of you! Send it to yourself using

http:yousendit.com

and then post the URL address they will give you. The service if free! Send the RAw file of just hte first one, if you have it!

Asher
 
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