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Religious procession

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
This afternoon I have been to a religious procession from where I made several photographs.
The sun was very harsh !

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Doug Kerr

Well-known member
Hi, Antonio,

This afternoon I have been to a religious procession from where I made several photographs.
The sun was very harsh !

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Fabulous shot.

I'm not sure just what sort of tuba (what pitch, for example) that is, but it is impressive! (Probably one of the lower pitched "contrabass" tubas.)

Thanks.

Best regards,

Doug
 

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
Thank you Paul, Robert and Doug ! :)

Indeed in this kind of event I do like to use wide angle lenses. This time I used the Oly 7-14 f/2.8 @... let me have a look... 7mm, that is, 14mm in 35mm
One notices however the deformation at the far right and left sides but, what the heck !
The central area is not deformed and the image looks fine.

However, I am too "obliged" to the use of the same format or proportions. I would like to see the saint more to the right of the image and that, is only possible using a different crop factor. Let me try the 3/4 just for fun !

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The 3/4 doesn't work as you can see bellow !
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But the square is OK !
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I have printed the 3/5 version - the forst one - which I will be offering the responsable for the procession.

Your thoughts please !

Oh something else: in this image I spent about one hour and I have used Affinity, LR and CS5 ! A mess LOL
 

Paul Abbott

New member
Personally, I think there is too much lost in the 1:1 and does a disservice to the documentary feel of the image. The dynamic of the angled building on the right and the wire fencing on the left frames the saint and immediately guides our eye into her, but is now lost. Also, the aspect of the environment is lost in the 1:1 too.
The original is wonderful but for the distortion. Can it be corrected with some slight perspective correction?
 

Paul Abbott

New member
Nice one!

I'm happy to see this result, thank god enough space was left at the top and bottom of the image, it's worked out well.
Do you think we can balance the image a little by centering things as the original, and showing more on the right side now?

Did you use LR?
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Better !!! :)

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Antonio, I commend you on the editing skills, but the awkward angles makes more sense in the turmoil and fray of balancing and moving with the heavy statue. I like this wide angle form to as it includes more of the space through which the toiling crowd must make its way.

It's great that you are open in entertaining various new possibilities in the presentation of your photograph. It's good to know when and when not to offer such suggestions. For some folk, the presented work is sacrosanct!

Comparing the two versions, without the original disorder, the full immediacy, movement and context of such a procession and tribute to a saint is lost. (Still, I doubt I would have any less admiration for this memorable scene if just shown the fully corrected version and had never seen the original, as the differences are small and debatable.

Having said that, what would you tell your grandson that it means today?

Asher
 

James Lemon

Well-known member
Thank you Paul, Robert and Doug ! :)

Indeed in this kind of event I do like to use wide angle lenses. This time I used the Oly 7-14 f/2.8 @... let me have a look... 7mm, that is, 14mm in 35mm
One notices however the deformation at the far right and left sides but, what the heck !
The central area is not deformed and the image looks fine.

However, I am too "obliged" to the use of the same format or proportions. I would like to see the saint more to the right of the image and that, is only possible using a different crop factor. Let me try the 3/4 just for fun !

i-pp7qCMv-XL.jpg


The 3/4 doesn't work as you can see bellow !
i-K9Vs4Wg-XL.jpg


But the square is OK !
i-Hs8htRs-XL.jpg

I have printed the 3/5 version - the forst one - which I will be offering the responsable for the procession.

Your thoughts please !

Oh something else: in this image I spent about one hour and I have used Affinity, LR and CS5 ! A mess LOL

Hi Antonio

I think the symmetrical composition of the original version is a much more dynamic image.

James
 

Doug Kerr

Well-known member
Hi, Antonio,

Regardless of the crop issue, I prefer the ones in which you have made perspective adjustments so that, for example, the man at the far left and the building at the right seem upright in the image.

Great shot in any case.

Best regards,

Doug
 

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
... It's great that you are open in entertaining various new possibilities in the presentation of your photograph. It's good to know when and when not to offer such suggestions. For some folk, the presented work is sacrosanct!
Comparing the two versions, without the original disorder, the full immediacy, movement and context of such a procession and tribute to a saint is lost. (Still, I doubt I would have any less admiration for this memorable scene if just shown the fully corrected version and had never seen the original, as the differences are small and debatable.
Having said that, what would you tell your grandson that it means today?
Asher

Thank you Asher. I think that accepting the critiques and be ready to experiment, innovate and so forth is something I like to do, because it opens new ideas and possibilities.
However, I am willing to do it many times, over and over ! LOL Just because I do not feel like !

I also like the first version (the original one) much more than the others. But... there is always a but, the saint is too centralized. And I do not have other photographs of the moment, I am afraid !

What would I tell my grand-son ? The Portuguese one would understand as he is 6 years old.
The "American" one (he is in fact Portuguese but is in US since 10 month old) would look at the picture and perhaps, just perhaps pay so attentions to my words.
You can't imagine how fun he is when speaking Portuguese with American accent !

The original image is printed to be given to the man in front.

Regards ! :)
 

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
Hi, Antonio,

Regardless of the crop issue, I prefer the ones in which you have made perspective adjustments so that, for example, the man at the far left and the building at the right seem upright in the image.
Great shot in any case.
Best regards,
Doug

If I am understanding correctly, you balance between the two versions...
What made me question the first version is precisely that building.
Thank you again ! :)
 

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
The original photograph
Notice some wires and other small "things" I cloned with Affinity in 3 minutes.
Look at the camera (GoPro or similar) in the bottom of the saint.

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Doug Kerr

Well-known member
Hi, Antonio,

With the herewith image I end my show. :)

A difficult way to go through, indeed. Train line and bend over the low wall

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A lovely shot, visually and as well in its fascinating juxtaposition of the traditional and the contemporary. The black and white rendering somehow seems to suit it well.

And I enjoy the sign under what looks like a pedestrian signal with a warning bell. Does that all pertain to crossing the motorway?
No, I couldn't read all of it without recourse to Google Translate, although I sometimes can do moderately well with written Portuguese owing to the substantial appearance of (distant) cognates with Spanish and other languages about which I know just enough to be dangerous.​

For the benefit of onloookers, I think the sign says (approximately):

Attention
In the absence of indicators or signs, stop, listen, and look.

It is interesting that the English habit is to say "stop, look, and listen."

Thanks again for this wonderful example of your justly-famous "photographer's eye".

Best regards,

Doug
 

Antonio Correia

Well-known member
Doug, your Portuguese is brilliant ! The translation is perfect.

Spanish and Portuguese languages are "cousins", while Brazilian is a "sister/brother"

A bit further away the traffic was stopped. There is a roundabout and then 100 meters to the boats which the pilgrims were to board.

Unfortunately was not able to make a good shot of the saint on board. All my fault ! :(
However...

Woman boarding while the saint goes in another boat.
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Antonio Correia

Well-known member
Happy to read from you, Asher ! ;)

The saint crosses the railway and those obstacles (the walls) in the arms of men to the other side.

A precarious situation indeed and a danger for the saint itself !
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I missed a decent photograph of these two priests walking in the procession in front of this young angel. She was very conscious of her job and expecting to be photographed.

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