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Switzerland and my touch!

Jobe Monique

New member
Hi!
I am secretary in Switzerland and my passion is photography. All the topics interest me but I always try to photograph them with my touch! I hope that you will appreciate them!

Last example ... a steam locomotive in the night!

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Thanks for your constructive comments!
 

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Bonjour Monique!

Welcome on board!
Here in OPF, you'll see that they are never any negative comments! Critique : yes! but not negative, we all have respect for each other, and believe me, we sometimes does not agree…

I am not a fan of B&W photos so I lett others for C&C… However, it is an impressive shot of an impressive machine… I guess the the locomotive had no motion when you shot it…
I find a curious feel of the locomotive leaning to the back ground… maybe a parallax issue?

But one can hear Jean Gabin yealing!

What camera/lens did you use?

PS Which part of Switzerland are you from? we already have some nice friends from Helvetia in OPF!
 

Doug Kerr

Well-known member
Hi, Monique,

I am secretary in Switzerland and my passion is photography. All the topics interest me but I always try to photograph them with my touch! I hope that you will appreciate them!

Last example ... a steam locomotive in the night!

A lovely shot of a wonderful machine. The Walschaert valve gear is nicely delineated but not over prominent. How nice that the driver opened the cylinder cocks timely to allow the lovely puff of steam. Did you wait for that?

I had the honor of (only once) opening the cylinder cocks on a steam locomotive.
 

Michael Fontana

pro member
Bonsoir Monique
et bienvenue ici à OPF.

Nicolas is a good yacht-photographer....
I did see, that you are sailing as well, aussi au Lac Leman?

Fine, you' re making pano's too.
Just a few days ago, a pano-board was set-up here...


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J'en etait pour 2 ans à l' école à Vevey..., actuellement j' habite Bâle
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi!
I am secretary in Switzerland and my passion is photography. All the topics interest me but I always try to photograph them with my touch! I hope that you will appreciate them!

Last example ... a steam locomotive in the night!

vvt.jpg


Thanks for your constructive comments!

Hi Jobe,

Welcome to OPF, especially if you love B&W like me. You'' note that Nicolas is not a fanatic about B&W photography but he does appreciate classic works. His world, taking fine pictures of yachts at sea with models on board, are in essence dreams in full color.

So, what's so special about B&W? Well unlike superb color pictures, the color does not define the experience rather the physical aesthetics of the subject and the way it's shown. Although some subject must be in color for full effects and meaning, in other cases color merely add razzmatazz attention to objects that have superficial compositional value.

So, I'd claim that black and white photography is king, (more often than not), where we are dealing with subjects whose presence is essentially physical. The shape, form presented, and writing of light in fine gradations of steam and shadow cannot be superseded by any color. So, in your making of this picture of the train you have paid homage to the massiveness of the machine and the steamy breath billowing from it's gills. This is a living monster machine. Its rails keep it discipline to work for us, but this thing has a sense of life. That you have brought to us and so the picture works for me. But how does this happen? Where is the tension created?

You have shown a view that uses the free stochastic form of the escaping stream reflecting light is such a soft and gentle way to contrast with the black firm unchanging irons and steel of the machine itself. That creates the opposiing forces in your picture. The angle and position you have taken makes the train rise above you and also gives importance to the wheels and that viewpoint is interesting.

I have some criticism about what might be missing from my sense of what would optimize the intent of the picture, as I can best guess from what you have shown.

The front of the train, although aptly shadowed is presented so dark that the form is lost almost entirely. That IMHO is neither necessary nor pleasing.

Since steam is so important to the essence of the photograph, I'd include the whole steam form coming from the top of the train too.

Close cropping is only for the most expert photographers who have a client who's needs they totally understand. Only they should exactly frame "as to be delivered". For the rest of us, we are better served by allowing more real estate for the subject to live in. This provides a milieu that can be removed at will, but never added. Of course, any artist can decide they know what they need and frame tight, but, I believe this is an example where close framing, perhaps removed a key feature which might have, at the time of image processing, proved significant for you.

Range of Tonalities in B&W Photography:
In black and white photography one can use a limited palette of tonalities successfully. However, in this case, using rich gradual shifts from white to deep black might add to the dimensionality, textures and full physicality of this remarkable picture and impress you!

Raw gives one reserves to render more tones, working zone by zone: If you have pictures in Raw, it's likely that more work can be done and that this version will be bettered by your final processing. In any case I love your train and if I had such a fine print it would have a good place on my wall and I'd be happy looking at it every day.
I do hope my C&C is within the bounds of what you intended for your photograph and I thank you for sharing. My own views do not matter as; after all, it's only your senses that have to give approval to your own work. So just take my views as one guys limited impressions and I am not right, just opinionated!

Asher
 
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Jobe Monique

New member
You know what Asher?! It's the first time that I have such a good analysis and good constructive advices for one of my photographs!

Because my native tongue is not English, I will read carefully your comments and I will come back to you!

Already thanks!
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi Jobe,

Thanks for your kind comments. I do love your picture and find it strong and worth returning to. So it's really valuable to us to see it made as impressive as possible. The kind of Photograph you want to show does not usually just come finalized from the camera. More often than not, it also needs craft and imagination in completing it in the darkroom or digitally. Almost everyone has to do that work. So consider such finishing touches normal and part of the creative process.

If one has too many pictures to process and too little time, you can also use a photography retouch artist who'll follow your instructions. Many of us prefer to do all our own work. Sometimes that is simply not possible.

Still, what you might want to do for the picture to bring out all your concepts, is a stimulating exercise in itself. Discussing that and how one implements these touches is both enjoyable and helpful to everyone.

Asher

BTW, What is your native tongue? Is it French? We have quite a number of guys from France posting here. My French works sufficiently to start a conversation, but it for sure your English is far better than that. So, if the English translation is troublesome for you, write also in French. Our French-speaking members can help respond too and I'll enjoy the language! :)
 

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
If you wish you can also write in French as well, so if the English translation is toublesome for you, at least our members native or fluid in French can help respond too.

Oui, en français! en francais!

Well, there are of three part/regions in Switzerland… by alphabetical order:
French
German
Italian

So, also :)

in italiano ! in italiano !
Auf deutsch! Auf deutsch!
 

Michael Fontana

pro member
Oui, en français! en francais!

Well, there are of three part/regions in Switzerland… by alphabetical order:
French
German
Italian

So, also :)

in italiano ! in italiano !
Auf deutsch! Auf deutsch!

Nicolas

you' ve forgotten the Rumantsch, in engl: Romansh, which is my native language:
Romansh - the Rhaeto-Romance language spoken in southeastern Switzerland; it is an official language of Switzerland. But I won't ask for a rumantsch board, here, as only about 35'00 people speak it. ;-)

in italiano !
Auf deutsch!
sin rumantsch!
 

Jobe Monique

New member
In fact, my native tongue is French and I live in St-Aubin (Neuchatel canton), a nice village close to a lake with a view on the Swiss Alps chain … gorgeous !!! except perhaps these last days with snow, fog and bloody cold weather! ;-)

Donc on va continuer en français?!!!

No, "unfortunately" English is the best international language and it's good for me also to practice …
 

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
No, "unfortunately" English is the best international language and it's good for me also to practice …

C'est dommage, on aurait pu mettre les noisettes en quinconces!

But you're right… be aware tough, that we have some French speaking/understanding hence educated ;-) people around her! lol!

BTW English is not the best international language, it is the one which is the more spreaded;-)
Don't forget that for a short while, French remains the diplomatic international language … ;-) ;-)
 
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