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A portuguese cat - Setubal, Portugal
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Jack Joseph Jr
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I don't mean to be rude, really, but you're using this forum as your personal Web gallery. Can't you get Smugmug or something? Everytime I come here to read about cameras I see another new thread of your images. That's not what this forum is about.
Again, I'm not meaning to hurt your feelings. I like to show my stuff off too. With the low activity and participation here I just know that the next time I click this forum's link I'm going to see more pictures of Portugal. I'd rather follow a link to your site and see them all at one time.
Again, I'm not meaning to hurt your feelings. I like to show my stuff off too. With the low activity and participation here I just know that the next time I click this forum's link I'm going to see more pictures of Portugal. I'd rather follow a link to your site and see them all at one time.
nicolas claris
OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Bonjour Jack
but in fact you're quite rude! wether we like or not Antonio's pictures, at least we've got something to look out and comment! Asher loves to comment pictures and to know, oftenly after questionning, the why, the how and the what of a picture... because he loves to discover the "arc of intent" of the photographer.
Asher's kind of implementing the "sharing spirit" that we tried to set-up in OPF.
It is true that the traffic here is not as highh as on a high-way, more like a road in the country, but getting more than 1500 registered members (they're not all posting!) after just a few months (OPF started in April this year) is not that bad, and we've got great contributors, pros and amateurs as well...
BTW, you'll be satisfied, if you look at Antonio's signature or to his public profile, you'll get his smugmug site...
Have nice Christmas and Eves fairs!
but in fact you're quite rude! wether we like or not Antonio's pictures, at least we've got something to look out and comment! Asher loves to comment pictures and to know, oftenly after questionning, the why, the how and the what of a picture... because he loves to discover the "arc of intent" of the photographer.
Asher's kind of implementing the "sharing spirit" that we tried to set-up in OPF.
It is true that the traffic here is not as highh as on a high-way, more like a road in the country, but getting more than 1500 registered members (they're not all posting!) after just a few months (OPF started in April this year) is not that bad, and we've got great contributors, pros and amateurs as well...
BTW, you'll be satisfied, if you look at Antonio's signature or to his public profile, you'll get his smugmug site...
Have nice Christmas and Eves fairs!
Jack Joseph Jr said:
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
Nicolas
Thank you for the comment.
In fact, for me, he was not rude.
I'm not offended at all.
I take pictures for fun and we are all entitlied to our own opinions...
It's his opinion. OK. I/we do respect it.
Even if he doesn't like my pictures ... It's OK.
I don't care, because there will be someone who will (probably) like the pictures.
I myself don't like all my pictures. I can see that there are some better than others. Some don't have a minimum quality. (What am I saying here ?
)
Have you imagined to please everybody ? It would be a bore.
I will be more carefull as I have to post in other topics.
I am opened to critics.
I sometimes like to put things on extremes:
Suppose nobody liked my/your pictures: Dam! Something would be very wronge.
Suppose everybody likes my/your pictures: Dam ! Something would be very wronge. We can't please all...
So, we stay somewhere in the middle: some like the photos and some don't.
I am now trying - beeing aware of the quality of a small part of my amateur photographic work - to sell my pictures. I am thinking of that now...
I am planning to edit a book (?) or whatever.
Portugal is a very small market. It's very difficult to publish a book on photography because people who has money to buy such a book is very small (in number I mean).
I do have other plans, but it is not time or place to write them.
Anyway I shoot often. I treat my pics in Photoshop the best I can. I am always learning. It's a never ending process.
I am sure that Sebastiao Salgado doen't treat his own pictures.
He has - as I call them - slaves to do such a work.
He comes to the studio, and gives the directions of the work.
I would like to do so as well.
I would like to have a faster workflow, which would allow me to concentrate on the camera(s) and lens(es) and on photographing, not both things.
I am needing some slaves and to spend more money on this kind of work, now that I know a little how to use my 20D and my 350D and all that heavy stuff of lens. They are breaking my spine!
As I told somewhere I am going to India in March.
I have already got a case with wheels to transport the equipment.
It's 7,5 kg heavy!!!
Thank you for the comment.
In fact, for me, he was not rude.
I'm not offended at all.
I take pictures for fun and we are all entitlied to our own opinions...
It's his opinion. OK. I/we do respect it.
Even if he doesn't like my pictures ... It's OK.
I don't care, because there will be someone who will (probably) like the pictures.
I myself don't like all my pictures. I can see that there are some better than others. Some don't have a minimum quality. (What am I saying here ?
)Have you imagined to please everybody ? It would be a bore.
I will be more carefull as I have to post in other topics.
I am opened to critics.
I sometimes like to put things on extremes:
Suppose nobody liked my/your pictures: Dam! Something would be very wronge.
Suppose everybody likes my/your pictures: Dam ! Something would be very wronge. We can't please all...
So, we stay somewhere in the middle: some like the photos and some don't.
I am now trying - beeing aware of the quality of a small part of my amateur photographic work - to sell my pictures. I am thinking of that now...
I am planning to edit a book (?) or whatever.
Portugal is a very small market. It's very difficult to publish a book on photography because people who has money to buy such a book is very small (in number I mean).
I do have other plans, but it is not time or place to write them.
Anyway I shoot often. I treat my pics in Photoshop the best I can. I am always learning. It's a never ending process.
I am sure that Sebastiao Salgado doen't treat his own pictures.
He has - as I call them - slaves to do such a work.
He comes to the studio, and gives the directions of the work.
I would like to do so as well.
I would like to have a faster workflow, which would allow me to concentrate on the camera(s) and lens(es) and on photographing, not both things.
I am needing some slaves and to spend more money on this kind of work, now that I know a little how to use my 20D and my 350D and all that heavy stuff of lens. They are breaking my spine!
As I told somewhere I am going to India in March.
I have already got a case with wheels to transport the equipment.
It's 7,5 kg heavy!!!
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
I forgot to post: here are two
I'm watching YOU.
I'm watching YOU.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Jack,
Your protest on "over posting" of Antonio's images has merit but needs further examination. Yes, it is great to have a larger variety of photographers work here and not just what one might consider "trivial snaphots". (What an argument we could have about just the word "trivial" used here!! )
We do have very so many many worthy alternatives to Antonios prolific posts, so, for example, here's Steve Teitlebaum's pictures, for example here
and here.
In case you missed them, enjoy all the very creative lensybaby pictures posted by different OPF photographers from various parts of the world!
I have gut feelings in the creative process.
This is informed by many years of struggle, thousands of paintings and photographs and a constant hunt to people's intentions and the ability to lock visions into artistic form.
Some people post pictures that I find trite and poorly executed and so out of place next to the other pictures I admire.
However, I stand back and look at the artist and not just what (s)he throws on the table. Antonio has shared here several pictures that I already like very much.
I do think one should be careful as to what one shows.
Post single pictures or several images related by some thing that helps the experience.
Please let's not have "cat pictures" meaning I have a cat, it walked across the room, my camera was nearby so I snapped a shot. Let's not have "vacation snap shots" unless they are in Layback cafe, illustrate that a lens works in the "Buy and Sell Forun" or some other purpose.
Always give a context for the picture: the "what", "how", "where" and "so what" of the picture!
Sure that cat just sat on the wall or walked by. That "happening" could be worthy of recording or not. It might be if you are fascinated, thrilled, intrigued, angered or whatever and manage to embed these feelings in the picture.
Devoid of intent, this is not the sort of art that I personally am looking to experience. Of course one could debate this and I may be wrong.
My preference is where the artist embeds his/her aesthetics, sensibilities, culture, wishes, directions and more into a work.
Now, where does "happenstance" and "found objects", seizures, and even urinals come in to this?
We could discuss that too!
Jack, I hope I have answered you. Your point was correct, needed, blunt, rather upsetting and unkind too.
However, it was an honest approach and this is OPF after all and you are entitled and needed to express your view. Otherwise this forum would not be "Open".
I'm looking forward to more and well directed, sensitive criticism of other people's work. We also hope you'll share your own pictures!
One person posting a lot of images can be annoying to some. You have a right to protest, but you also should join in and post too!
Art without criticism is incomplete in the wonderful journey of theArc of Intent beyond the artist. Art needs to be experienced. Part of that should be reactions. If that is utter rejction, then that should be heard too!
A cat picture, per se, does not make me feel good, since I have experienced an unfortunate habit of collectors of lenses overdosing us with "cat pictures" to show off the resolution of their bespoke lenses.
However some of the greatest photographers celebrated these animals in fine photographic works. So please no "cat shots"! Photographs taken with care and presented with context only!
Asher
Your protest on "over posting" of Antonio's images has merit but needs further examination. Yes, it is great to have a larger variety of photographers work here and not just what one might consider "trivial snaphots". (What an argument we could have about just the word "trivial" used here!!
)We do have very so many many worthy alternatives to Antonios prolific posts, so, for example, here's Steve Teitlebaum's pictures, for example here
and here.
In case you missed them, enjoy all the very creative lensybaby pictures posted by different OPF photographers from various parts of the world!
I have gut feelings in the creative process.
This is informed by many years of struggle, thousands of paintings and photographs and a constant hunt to people's intentions and the ability to lock visions into artistic form.
Some people post pictures that I find trite and poorly executed and so out of place next to the other pictures I admire.
However, I stand back and look at the artist and not just what (s)he throws on the table. Antonio has shared here several pictures that I already like very much.
I do think one should be careful as to what one shows.
Post single pictures or several images related by some thing that helps the experience.
Please let's not have "cat pictures" meaning I have a cat, it walked across the room, my camera was nearby so I snapped a shot. Let's not have "vacation snap shots" unless they are in Layback cafe, illustrate that a lens works in the "Buy and Sell Forun" or some other purpose.
Always give a context for the picture: the "what", "how", "where" and "so what" of the picture!
Sure that cat just sat on the wall or walked by. That "happening" could be worthy of recording or not. It might be if you are fascinated, thrilled, intrigued, angered or whatever and manage to embed these feelings in the picture.
Devoid of intent, this is not the sort of art that I personally am looking to experience. Of course one could debate this and I may be wrong.
My preference is where the artist embeds his/her aesthetics, sensibilities, culture, wishes, directions and more into a work.
Now, where does "happenstance" and "found objects", seizures, and even urinals come in to this?
We could discuss that too!
Jack, I hope I have answered you. Your point was correct, needed, blunt, rather upsetting and unkind too.
However, it was an honest approach and this is OPF after all and you are entitled and needed to express your view. Otherwise this forum would not be "Open".
I'm looking forward to more and well directed, sensitive criticism of other people's work. We also hope you'll share your own pictures!
One person posting a lot of images can be annoying to some. You have a right to protest, but you also should join in and post too!
Art without criticism is incomplete in the wonderful journey of theArc of Intent beyond the artist. Art needs to be experienced. Part of that should be reactions. If that is utter rejction, then that should be heard too!
A cat picture, per se, does not make me feel good, since I have experienced an unfortunate habit of collectors of lenses overdosing us with "cat pictures" to show off the resolution of their bespoke lenses.
However some of the greatest photographers celebrated these animals in fine photographic works. So please no "cat shots"! Photographs taken with care and presented with context only!
Asher
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I enjoy many of Antonio's pictures although I think he was putting them in the wrong place.
He's a bit of a madman, I'm watching you, But damn I get a kick out of it.
I have a challenge for you Antonio. Go to a pet store and get some pictures of tropical fish if you want a challenge.
He's a bit of a madman, I'm watching you, But damn I get a kick out of it.
I have a challenge for you Antonio. Go to a pet store and get some pictures of tropical fish if you want a challenge.
Hi Ron,
just 'cos you keep asking, I'll have a rummage and try and post some pictures of fish. (and just 'cos it's Christmas.)
I think I can understand Jack's questioning, since I was thinking the same, but the good thing to come out of it is I now understand a bit more about Antonio. It would indeed be a duller place if Antonio didn't post his images.
Now, as to the cat pictures - They are in the correct forum - (tho' if they were originally elsewhere, then it would have been a bit more outrageous.) I would have liked a third image, maybe just of the wall and bushes. Cats do that, sleep in the sun on tops of walls, wake up and stretch, and then jump down.;-)
Best wishes,
Ray
just 'cos you keep asking, I'll have a rummage and try and post some pictures of fish. (and just 'cos it's Christmas.)
I think I can understand Jack's questioning, since I was thinking the same, but the good thing to come out of it is I now understand a bit more about Antonio. It would indeed be a duller place if Antonio didn't post his images.
Now, as to the cat pictures - They are in the correct forum - (tho' if they were originally elsewhere, then it would have been a bit more outrageous.) I would have liked a third image, maybe just of the wall and bushes. Cats do that, sleep in the sun on tops of walls, wake up and stretch, and then jump down.;-)
Best wishes,
Ray
Ivan Garcia
New member
Hi Ron
I visited the London aquarium yesterday and took a series of images, it was most definitely a challenge; the tanks Plexiglass was some 2 inches thick.
That created a plethora of problems, chromatic aberrations, flash reflections etc, etc.
Antonio is going to love your challenge.
While we await his resulting images, here is one of the best I could muster.
Enjoy
I visited the London aquarium yesterday and took a series of images, it was most definitely a challenge; the tanks Plexiglass was some 2 inches thick.
That created a plethora of problems, chromatic aberrations, flash reflections etc, etc.
Antonio is going to love your challenge.
While we await his resulting images, here is one of the best I could muster.
Enjoy
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Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Ivan, could you kindly explain how this creature lives and what the parts are?
Asher
Asher
Ivan Garcia
New member
Hi Asher.
Anthozoans are probably the most famous cnidarians, they include the corals that build great reefs in tropical waters, as well as sea anemones, sea fans, and sea pens.
This one in particular, is a Dahlia Anemone.
A large anemone can grow up to 15 cm in diameter, with up to 160 short tentacles, arranged in multiples of ten around the mouth. The dahlia anemone is a solitary anthozoa. They live attached to rocks via the stem, (which is furnished with a number of sucker-like discs) on the lower shores, particularly on shores with strong wave action or sub tidal areas with strong tidal streams.
The dahlia anemone catches and eats organisms that come close to its tentacles. The stinging cells are potent enough to kill quite large fish.
PS: why do I feel like I am back at school?. lol :-D
Anthozoans are probably the most famous cnidarians, they include the corals that build great reefs in tropical waters, as well as sea anemones, sea fans, and sea pens.
This one in particular, is a Dahlia Anemone.
A large anemone can grow up to 15 cm in diameter, with up to 160 short tentacles, arranged in multiples of ten around the mouth. The dahlia anemone is a solitary anthozoa. They live attached to rocks via the stem, (which is furnished with a number of sucker-like discs) on the lower shores, particularly on shores with strong wave action or sub tidal areas with strong tidal streams.
The dahlia anemone catches and eats organisms that come close to its tentacles. The stinging cells are potent enough to kill quite large fish.
PS: why do I feel like I am back at school?. lol :-D
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
A beautiful but painful death!
Asher
Asher
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
I like your quotation Ron !
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Antonio,
I personally love your posting! If there was an issue, you'd for sure have recieved a subtle email!
You have sometimes shared pictures with a particular lean style that I like. So I always pay attention to find these gems.
Asher
I personally love your posting! If there was an issue, you'd for sure have recieved a subtle email!
You have sometimes shared pictures with a particular lean style that I like. So I always pay attention to find these gems.
Asher
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
Ron Morse said:
Ron.
I would gladly accept your challenge if there was such a place in Setubal.
There isn't. Only in Lisbon.
But I would be afraid to post them because they could be considered as "cat pictures", well taken, taken with care but without context.
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
Asher Kelman said:
It's nice of you Asher.
Thank you
Ivan Garcia
New member
Antonio Correia said:Ron.
I would gladly accept your challenge if there was such a place in Setubal.
There isn't. Only in Lisbon.
But I would be afraid to post them because they could be considered as "cat pictures", well taken, taken with care but without context.
Antonio.
Don’t let things get to you; not so long ago, I received a very harsh personal critique by one of our members, for which I posted an equally stern reply, If I feel the need to start my post with “I don’t mean to be rude “or similar preludes, chances are, I am going to be rude or offensive, so I tend not to post at all. Critiques on an image are always welcome, personal attacks, no matter how well constructed, are not. As far as I am concerned, you can post as many pictures as you want.
Antonio Correia
Well-known member
Ivan Garcia said:Antonio.
Don’t let things get to you; not so long ago, I received a very harsh personal critique by one of our members, for which I posted an equally stern reply, If I feel the need to start my post with “I don’t mean to be rude “or similar preludes, chances are, I am going to be rude or offensive, so I tend not to post at all. Critiques on an image are always welcome, personal attacks, no matter how well constructed, are not. As far as I am concerned, you can post as many pictures as you want.
Thank you Ivan.
I sometimes work/think on impulses.
Have to make the digestion of the cats.