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My World: At a market, in France.

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
In Rouillac is one of the last surviving trade fairs of the south west of France, witnessing a rapidly changing rural world.

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Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Nice set Jerome. I think that it would be even better if shown in colour, in my opinion. The first picture has haloes around the edges of the roof where it meets the sky. I presume that you have used a double exposure there due to the extreme dynamic range. The "a better life for parrots" group on flickr loves you ;)
 

Paul Abbott

New member
This is good to see what goes on here. I bet they survive well enough until supermarkets start to set up in every town.
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Nice set Jerome. I think that it would be even better if shown in colour, in my opinion.

The colors are relatively disappointing, actually. They are washed out by the summer sun and not very harmonious. But I'll go there another time this august.

Actually, I usually prefer color and am not at ease with B&W. The only occasion I used it deliberately was for the Oktoberfest (which I posted in another thread). The third series I posted in this section (The gay parade) is in color.

The first picture has haloes around the edges of the roof where it meets the sky. I presume that you have used a double exposure there due to the extreme dynamic range.

No. This is just an effect of the backlight and B&W conversion. I don't think I have ever used a double exposure for HDR, actually. I have sometimes taken a series of pictures with that idea in mind to find out that the dynamic range of the raw file was sufficient for my needs.
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
This is good to see what goes on here. I bet they survive well enough until supermarkets start to set up in every town.

There is a large supermarket in Rouillac. This market only takes place once a month. Its main interest is that is sells things one does not find in a supermarket like livestock (to be further raised at home) or seedlings.
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
The colors are relatively disappointing, actually. They are washed out by the summer sun and not very harmonious. But I'll go there another time this august.

Actually, I usually prefer color and am not at ease with B&W. The only occasion I used it deliberately was for the Oktoberfest (which I posted in another thread). The third series I posted in this section (The gay parade) is in color..
I understand. And it is your choice after all. :)

...No. This is just an effect of the backlight and B&W conversion. I don't think I have ever used a double exposure for HDR, actually. I have sometimes taken a series of pictures with that idea in mind to find out that the dynamic range of the raw file was sufficient for my needs.
Interesting. How did you convert to B&W, if I may ask? Perhaps we can find out what it causing this side effect.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Thanks Jerome for giving me the opportunity to try assigning colors for this interesting picture. I think that color would be great in a lyrical rendering of this scene, (where one color might take precedence). However, this pictures is not about the color, rather the positions, movement and gestures of folk searching for bargains like foraging animals in a far off past.

The diverse and often clashing modern colors disguise what's going on. Black and white allows us to see what's happening!

In Rouillac is one of the last surviving trade fairs of the south west of France, witnessing a rapidly changing rural world.



Jerome Marot: Market in Rouillac

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Jerome Marot: Market in Rouillac

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I've tried to balance out tonalities so that we get more of a sense of tribal mass hunting for bargains.


Asher
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Hi Jerome,

By using dxo film pack in photoshop.
I use DxO Elite myself (more than 3 years now) but not the film pack. I have come to the conclusion that one should be very conservative with the auto exposure optimization sliders of DxO as they can deliver rather aggressive results, also in color. I have indeed seen similar halos appear in my pictures and have eventually stopped using DxO for those kind of photos. DxO is an excellent raw converter but one should also know its weaker spots, such as this one.
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Thanks Jerome for giving me the opportunity to try assigning colors for this interesting picture.

You are welcome. Seeing your picture, I agree that the fake grain wasn't a very good idea of mine, especially after flickr jpeg compression.

About the tonalities, it is a question of taste. You chose to emphasize the crowd. I was there, it was very hot and I tried to emphasize the harsh light, but, apparently, the message did not come through. What I regret in your version, however, is that the church tower is darker than the rest. This was an important element to me, the village is built around that church. The church dates from the XI century and is very typical of local architecture.
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Coming back after 9 years, it seems that flickr broke the embedded pictures. One can still see the pictures by clicking, though.

I went back to Rouillac this year and wearing a mask was compulsory.

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Jerome Marot

Well-known member
I read in the local papers that the market closed in spring and only reopened last June. I noticed that there were noticeably less people compared to last year. Of course, there are less tourists as many people did not take vacations this year and British citizen went back some days ago when quarantaine measures were announced in Britain.

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The pictures were processed with "Raw Power" on the iPad, an application which we discussed in another thread.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
A question on the software. Can it work as well on an iPhone?

I really like these in color. I feel for the village and the vendors as it’s hard to store a lot of the produce, especially seafood!

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I don't know. I suppose I could install it on the old iPhone to find out, but I fear the screen is too small for such an app to make sense.
🙏 Jérôme,

Yes, it works. Need to find a relevant picture where their edits might fit. Could you show one of these market pictures Prior to correction?

Asher
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
Yes, it works. Need to find a relevant picture where their edits might fit. Could you show one of these market pictures Prior to correction?

I could, but would it make sense? There is little correction on these pictures, besides levels (and for a few: exposure, as the camera was wrongly set, a recurring ergonomic problem of the camera...) and the app will show its strength on the raw format, which I cannot post here. What about taking a few pictures yourself with a camera supporting the raw format and find out how it works out?
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I could, but would it make sense? There is little correction on these pictures, besides levels (and for a few: exposure, as the camera was wrongly set, a recurring ergonomic problem of the camera...) and the app will show its strength on the raw format, which I cannot post here. What about taking a few pictures yourself with a camera supporting the raw format and find out how it works out?
Sure!

I struggled to find something correctable!
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Jérôme,

Are there still chickens and ducklings as when you started this thread almost a decade ago?

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Everyone, revisit the very first posts in this thread and the rich documentation by Jérôme of the market, a decade ago!

The pictures were always viewable by clicking on the tiny icon, but now one can see the pictures, one after the other, simply by scrolling!

Thanks, Jérôme!

Asher
 
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