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Canon 50mm f/1.2

Anybody using this lens: Have you noticed that, in lower light, image quality wide open is really outstanding in my opinion - they way they have balanced all the parameters (of which sharpness is, of course, only one) to produce a contrasty, flare-free image.

However, have you noticed that, for example, in good sunlight, trying to take an image of a small flower towards one of the edges of the frame, the flower (or whatever small bright object you're photographing) has substantial coma? Even when stopped down to f/2.8, this lens does not like small objects reflected in harsh sunlight towards the edges of the frame.

Yet, it will magnificently render bright point light sources at night at f/1.2. I don't know if anybody has read Erwin Puts' short essay (discussion) titled Modern high-speed lenses but, though sparse, it gives some nice insight around the design compromises necessary to make a lens like this. His statement is very true:

"It is not easy to design a really good high-speed lens and many compromises can be made: spherical aberration and coma can only be combated by contrast reduction, evenness of definition over the image area, focus shift, vignetting and a host of other optical parameters."

Sure, the 50L is, in many ways, not as good as the 50mm f/1.4 at, say f/4 (for example, it has, in my experience, increased coma in daylight, and, of course, chromatic aberration). However, I think we have to look back at the 50L f/1.0 and appreciate the extreme difficulty to make a lens like this - much more so than, say, an 85mm. But I think Canon has given us a lens that is outstanding to use wide open (and, obviously, not meant for harsh sunlight) and all the misunderstandings and issues people find, such as focus shift when stopping down, or the increased coma I see when compared to pretty much any of my other lenses (in very certain conditions), were obviously allowed to produce this lens which gives us comparatively sharp, contrasty, beautiful images wide open.

I think the price is, in some respects, unusually high (especially compared to, say the other 50mm lenses) but, when we look at what we get, and compared to much more expensive Zeiss or Leica glass (which, by my research, does not seem to be superior at all) this lens is, for many, worth it. I have not taken it off the camera yet.

I still can't figure out whether the autofocus accuracy is lacking, or whether it is user error, but I don't really trust the AF at this stage. I wonder if Canon didn't speed up the AF too much (it really is nice and fast) - at the expense of accuracy?
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Dawid,

You are a great researcher and the terms you are using are those that are generally in the world of LF camera shooters and the Leica world. Thanks for the excellent Erwin Puts reference!

With Nikon and Canon, we have demanded and received the longer lenses capable of catching a newsworthy event, sports and wildlife and of course fun pictures with family and friends. Weddings were perfect with the 24-70 range and the T/S lens made architects happy.

In the olden days, the lens designers and MFRs made the compromises ot produce lens optimized for each activty and then we had a lot of character in lens. So then guys like Sean Reid or Ewin Puts can write how each lens writes differently, althought they do obsess about minor barrel distortion, vignetting and softness in the corners, for example. Still they do really appreciate lens "character"!

On FM, by contrast, the discussion is more on getting the best MTF, sharp cat's whiskers, even illumination and so forth, all of which takes us away from particular lens personality and artistic qualities.

Process lenses and surveillance and architecture for example have nened for uniform sharp well corrected lens. These characteristic have, to our loss been seen as "standards" by which many other lenses are judged. In doing so, creative tools are left to post with photoshop which is sad!

Asher
 
In the olden days, the lens designers and MFRs made the compromises ot produce lens optimized for each activty and then we had a lot of character in lens.

Well, Asher, I must say that it is clear (in my opinion) that Canon has truly optimised the new 50L to draw beautifully at night, in the harshest of lighting conditions. It has a gentleness and assuredness (and that, at f/1.2) that I have not seen in any of my other lenses.

I took this 2 days ago: Only a snapshot, really - I'd have liked to compose it differently, but I hink it speaks a lot for the character of the lens. It's great to be able to use ISO400 in the darkness!

Oh, sweet night


Technical details: Canon EOS 1D MkIIN @ ISO400, EF 50mm f/1.2L @ f/1.2
 
I don't want to litter this tread with useless images, but I want to post further images that show the character of this lens. Many people have made statements that e.g. the 50 1.2L is "10% better than the 50mm f/1.4" - etc.

This is a wide-open (f/1.2) shot, and I would love to see the 50mm f/1.4 get to within 10% of this sort of performance. The L is so sharp wide open, small flaws in the surface of the glass are revealed with clarity, and the Bokeh truly remains amazing. IMO. I am enjoying this lens very much. But it really is a "manual focus" lens, unless your subjects are far away.


Over Shoulder


(ISO400, 1D Mk II N, EF 50mm L @ f/1.2)
 
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Here you go asher, an example of the 50 f1.0L sucking on 2 fronts.

#1 no point of sharpness at all. (The 50 f1.0 is just not a sharp lens wide open. even the f1.4 has better sharpness wide open)

#2 purple highlight in blown out spot from internal reflection.

The 50 f1.0L at f1.0
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And now the winner.

The 50 f1.2L at f1.2
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The 50 f1.4 is still has the best performance for the buck but just do not even try to compare it to the f1.2L it is not in the same league. (plastic and no usable manual focus + purple fringing)
 
Will, I must admit that I was a bit disappointed that the 50L also has an outer casing of plastic. It feels very solid (more so than, say, 100mm f/2.8 Macro, which is also pretty solid, yet plastic), but I still would have preferred a metal outer casing - maybe just the traditionalist in me! I do feel that the 16-35L is built better - at least it's hood threads on the front are metal - the 50L is, externally, all-plastic. Sign of the times, I guess.

But the glass, oh so beautiful... :)

Thank you for the examples Will - do you currently own the 50 1.0L ?
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Well Dawid,

There's plastic and plastic! A lot of progress has been made and I doubt this plastic is just what you'll find on an el cheapo EF lens!

Asher
 

Eric Hiss

Member
I'll be honest. I'm an interloper on this thread as I have no 50 f/1.2 from Canon, and I have no intention to ever buy one. I just can't believe all the hype this lens is generating. Have any of you guys compared this to an old zuiko 55mm f/1.2 that you can buy for $150 and adapt to your canon bodies for like $20 - or how about compare it to a leica 50mm f/1.4 summilux? Do the comparison and it will blow your mind (and save you a lot of cash). Almost all 35mm makes can be adapted to canon bodies. The contax/zeiss lenses are quite nice too and can be converted to keep the AF. I'm just saying...check it out for yourselves. You will be rewarded.


Last year I did - and I traded my 85 L f/1.2 straight across for the latest leica 80 lux - there was no question - sure the leica only goes to f/1.4 but it looked like it had less DOF at 1.4 than the canon and it was way sharper than the canon from f/1.4 all the way to stopped down. The zuiko will not have the flare resistance of the newer canon but the leica will.

Dawid,
Do you think its really a fair evaluation to post a 50mm f/1.0 taken with a D60 against a 50 f/1.2 taken with a 1DsII? There's a huge difference between the cameras and certainly I could expect the the purple from the overexposed regions on the d60 where the 1dsII may fare better. In that image it looks to me like the lens did not flare but the D60 sensor did bloom. Also apparent is a bit of camera shake which would of course affect apparent sharpness. I actually think the f/1.0 image you posted has more character and wonder how these two lenses would size up on the same camera body with no camera shake and the same subject. btw- Your f/1.0 was shot at 1/30th and the 1.2 at 1/50th. I've shot with the d30, d60, 20D, 1D, 1Ds, and 5D and can say without question the 1 series can be handheld at significantly lower shutter speeds than the rest.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I'll be honest. I'm an interloper on this thread as I have no 50 f/1.2 from Canon, and I have no intention to ever buy one. I just can't believe all the hype this lens is generating. Have any of you guys compared this to an old zuiko 55mm f/1.2 that you can buy for $150 and adapt to your canon bodies for like $20 - or how about compare it to a leica 50mm f/1.4 summilux? Do the comparison and it will blow your mind (and save you a lot of cash). Almost all 35mm makes can be adapted to canon bodies. The contax/zeiss lenses are quite nice too and can be converted to keep the AF. I'm just saying...check it out for yourselves. You will be rewarded.


Last year I did - and I traded my 85 L f/1.2 straight across for the latest leica 80 lux - there was no question - sure the leica only goes to f/1.4 but it looked like it had less DOF at 1.4 than the canon and it was way sharper than the canon from f/1.4 all the way to stopped down. The zuiko will not have the flare resistance of the newer canon but the leica will.

Dawid,
Do you think its really a fair evaluation to post a 50mm f/1.0 taken with a D60 against a 50 f/1.2 taken with a 1DsII? There's a huge difference between the cameras and certainly I could expect the the purple from the overexposed regions on the d60 where the 1dsII may fare better. In that image it looks to me like the lens did not flare but the D60 sensor did bloom. Also apparent is a bit of camera shake which would of course affect apparent sharpness. I actually think the f/1.0 image you posted has more character and wonder how these two lenses would size up on the same camera body with no camera shake and the same subject.

Actually Eric, I have no special loyalty to any camera MFR! I use Zeis lenses the Distagons 17mm, 21mm, 28mm (2.0) the 28-80 Vario sonnar and the 50 Planar 1.4. I also have the superb Pentax super multi Coated Takamur 50mm f 1.4, an exceptional piece of glass. So I have no reluctance to look elsewhere. The best for value is the EF 50 2.5mm Macro lens, then next the EF 1.4.

Now if the Olympus was flare resistance, we'd probably have a home run. I have made contact with a lens guy and when he retires I bhpe he'll take his formalae with him! Coating is the key for a lot of this magic.

It so happens that the Canon 50 1.2 L has all the things we ant built into the lens and has auto focus. Is it sworthwhile? Well not if you don't wan't to shoot wide open and not worry about bright window light! I don't see any reason for this to be purchased for most people. I'd have not really used it effectively anyway until this year.

If I could recoat hte Olympus, it would likely be my choice. Still, being able to focus with the 50 1.2 L is something I'm loving so if I get to coat the Olympus lens I'll send it to you, not joking!

Still for a lot of people reading this, the Olympus suggestion is really worthwhile.

Asher
 

Eric Hiss

Member
Asher,
I think you can have lenses coated, but not sure how much or what's involved. But bring up your 50 when you come to San Fran - we can test it against my zuiko and lux and report back to everyone.
Eric
 

Eric Hiss

Member
Forgot to mention - models love the images from the zuiko - somehow it draws them in a really wonderful way. When I do shoots using multiple lenses the models always pick out the shots with the zuiko as their favorites.

ps. mine is not for sale! But if you shop for one - try and find one with the rare earth element glass that is supposedly radioactive. These were the early ones below serial numbers that start with 12xxxx - they were reputed to have the best bokeh.
 
Eric, just to correct you, Will posted the portrait shots - I posted the shot just before it featuring the liquor decanters.

I agree with Asher in that I also do not owe allegiance to any particular manufacturer - in fact, one of my favourite lenses is a Tokina. However, all the 'hype' the 50L is generating must tell you that some of it must be true... Especially since a lot of us are used to using many different lenses.

Though many of the older high-end 50mm lenses are very special, very competent, I don't think there is any new 50mm that stacks up to the 50L at f/1.2 (and with AF to boot, as Asher mentioned). The 50L, of course, is leagues ahead in terms of flare resistance etc, and really does have a special character.

I have read several reports of the f/1.2 Zuikos being very competent (they sure have character) but off-centre elements are subject to "all kinds of aberration, and unsuitable for astronomy use" according to at least one poster - etc. The Canon lens really is in a different league (at f/1.2) as far as what I can see.

Sure, Will's image of the man has a bit more character than that of the old lady, but I don't think that has anything to do with the lens, it's the angle, lighting, background, and facial expressions. To be honest (sorry Will) I don't feel either of the images have much character.

I believe both images I posted show the 50 1.2L's unrivaled (for a current 50mm lens) ability to separate a (subjectively) very sharply rendered foreground - even if that foreground is far off-centre - from a background which truly is rendered with a dreamy smoothness. Look at my decanter shot - wide open, there is no haze, flaring, coma,or 'dreamy look' to the harsh highlights in the reflected glass. Everything seems to be under complete control. That truly takes doing at f/1.2, in my book.

Subjective? Maybe, but those of us who use it really love this lens, and I don't think so many people would be fooling themselves to ease the pain of the cost of the lens. There must be something more to it.
 

Eric Hiss

Member
Eric, just to correct you, Will posted the portrait shots - I posted the shot just before it featuring the liquor decanters.

I stand correct - sorry about that.

I have read several reports of the f/1.2 Zuikos being very competent (they sure have character) but off-centre elements are subject to "all kinds of aberration, and unsuitable for astronomy use" according to at least one poster - etc. The Canon lens really is in a different league (at f/1.2) as far as what I can see.

When I wrote about all the hype, its partly because of what I have seen/read on other boards. But this Canon was beat up pretty badly in actual comparison tests to other lenses on another forum where the members get into a lot of lens tests. I don't think your glass decanter shot is really exceptional - has a lot to do with the lighting in the scene as well. Have you tried side by side tests with different lenses?


Sure, Will's image of the man has a bit more character than that of the old lady, but I don't think that has anything to do with the lens, it's the angle, lighting, background, and facial expressions. To be honest (sorry Will) I don't feel either of the images have much character.

Yes, in truth both examples are pretty plain shots and almost all lenses are going to be sharp right in the center.

I believe both images I posted show the 50 1.2L's unrivaled (for a current 50mm lens) ability to separate a (subjectively) very sharply rendered foreground - even if that foreground is far off-centre - from a background which truly is rendered with a dreamy smoothness. Look at my decanter shot - wide open, there is no haze, flaring, coma,or 'dreamy look' to the harsh highlights in the reflected glass. Everything seems to be under complete control. That truly takes doing at f/1.2, in my book.

Unrivaled? Absolutely disagree -but would love to be proven wrong - Asher better bring that 50 up for testing - and if you want to tell me the AF is really an advantage I will also disagree because the AF is not going to focus exactly where you want when you are using shallow DOF.

Subjective? Maybe, but those of us who use it really love this lens, and I don't think so many people would be fooling themselves to ease the pain of the cost of the lens. There must be something more to it.

Well certainly the lens, the gear is much less important than the idea and the execution. If you love the lens that's awesome and all you need to know. For people still considering lenses, I suggest you try out several before buying.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi Eric,

A good point on the AF v manual! I use the AF just to get near and then always use manual which is there all the time for fine adjust!

Asher
 
Hi Eric,

I do not dispute most of the points you raise. Regarding the autofocus, for close - relatively static subjects - I agree that it is actually of no real use (I've said so several times in this thread). It does, however, have the ability to very competently track more distant, moving subjects, and this is certainly useful for some people, i.e. indoor sports, kids playing, etc.

At a distance of, say, 5 meters, with fast running kids in bad light (or, if you want to isolate them from the background with wide open aperture) this lens will give you sharp, well-focused shots that would take an extreme degree of practice (near impossible) with a manual focus lens, precisely because the DOF is so thin. So AF has its merit, but certainly not for most well-composed, thought-out 'still' shots.

Also, don't forget that, for certain people (and I often fall into that category) having a weather-sealed lens is a big benefit. Though I'm not silly enough to purposefully shoot in the rain, I do a lot of photography on very windy and salty/humid beaches, etc. and these environments would slowly destroy many of the alternative 50mm lenses.

Regarding the optical performance of the lens, most people (and I am certainly not saying that it's the case with you) only test easily-quantifiable metrics (qualities), with most being obsessed with resolving power, vignetting, and maybe chromatic aberration, etc. If I may reiterate a quote from one of my earlier replies:

"It is not easy to design a really good high-speed lens and many compromises can be made: spherical aberration and coma can only be combated by contrast reduction, evenness of definition over the image area, focus shift, vignetting and a host of other optical parameters."

To my eye (and in my experience of using Canon's other 50mm lenses) the particular set of compromises applied to this lens (yes, it does have CA wide open, yes, it has some Coma for bright close-up objects in bright lights, etc) all work together to render images which I find unique over most other 50mm lenses I've seen/used.

In my opinion, most of the lens comparisons people apply in forums equate to saying that, for example, a particular car is terrible because it does not have a top speed comparable to its competitors, or it has bad gas mileage. Those are the 'important' metrics, but does that make a Bentley Mulsanne or a Lotus Elise terrible cars? They have unique qualities, but (on the other hand) are not for everybody. I think the same applies to this lens, I can understand why some people are disappointed with it - if you're not looking for its particular qualities, it truly is not worth it. But if you are, you don't have that many option (which is why Canon can ask such a comparatively high price for it).

I would also love to see the results of an objective test (if Asher brings his 50mm to you). I do very much agree that, if you are looking for a top 50mm lens, you should look at all your options, and not limit your scope to Canon. Bet certainly, within the Canon stable, the 50 1.2L is beyond comparison to their other two 'fast' 50mm lenses. That is why I posted those two images - they are not great, no doubt. But I would like to assert that I could not produce either with the 1.4 or 1.8 wide open. And even then, it's not at 1.2 (and in extreme low light, i.e. 1/5s ISO3200, that extra stop is very significant to me). If anybody can show that I am wrong, I'll happily sell my 1.2 and pick up a 1.4 or 1.8 again, then I must have been using bad copies.

In any case, nobody here needs to prove anything. The great thing about this forum is that we simply share experience and information. And I think it's pretty clear that a lot of people think the 1.2 is an amazing lens with unique qualities, but that anybody in the market really should consider other, manual-focus 50mm lenses as well, to find what works for them. It is as easy to be disappointed with this lens, as it is to fall in love with it.
 

Eric Hiss

Member
just for fun

Just for fun here's a couple images taken with my $150 zuiko 55mm f/1.2 fitted to my canon 5D. These are all crops and have also been resized smaller.

My daughter Aria
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My son Finn
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Here's one from from a while back with the canon 50mm f/1.4 (at f/10!) I don't think the canon f/1.4 sucks - its actually a good value but will not compare to the the leica's.

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I know what you all wanted to see were the images that the models picked out for themselves. Sorry!

I had to dig to find one of my leica 50mm 'cron for you taken on my canon 5D since I almost always shoot that with my Leica DMR.

My son again - shitty shot I know but taken at f/2.0 ISO 800 - take a look - Whoops I think the adapter reports f/2.0 which is what's in the EXIF but I think this can't be that wide since the DOF is not that shallow - maybe f/4.0? Still impressive to me.

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You can view the 100% crop here if you like which will show the sharpness of the lens. The lux is really smoother but as sharp as the cron already at f/2.0!!! I am sorry that I don't have a leica 50mm lux pix of my son taken with the 5D to post.

http://www.eh21.com/example pics/IMG_1071 crop.jpg
 
Eric, I find the first one especially impressive (the Zuiko is really impressive, almost more so than the Leicas). Was that wide open at f/1.2?

Here is a snapshot of a very low-contrast subject in bad light (after sunset), taken at f/1.2 with the Canon 50L, with an off-centre portion enlarged to 100% (that area might not have been in perfect focus, but it's good enough). Even off-centre (the centre is brilliantly sharp, nyquist artifacts everywhere just like your last Leica shot) I think it resolves very well. This is an uncropped shot on a 1DMkIIN. Everything was pretty underexposed not to blow out the sky (bright part hidden behind the enlargement).



EF 50mm f/1.2L @ f/1.2 (click for large version)


(this is just a snapshot, but I thought it worthwhile posting as nobody's posted crops of the 50L wide open in this tread thus far)
 
Eric, you're kidding right? (Replying to a hand-held snapshot in low light with a carefully setup test chart.)

I'm not sure what that is supposed to prove, in the context of the original purpose of this thread (questions regarding impressions and practical experience, examples of the Canon 50L).

I think the detail (edge and subtle surface) rendered in e.g. the leaves are impressive on the canon's part for a f/1.2 shot, but maybe I don't have high standards. But really, let's not turn this into a Canon vs. Leica/Zuiko fight, I am participating in this thread merely to add information around my 50L 1.2 experience, as well as the context of the original questions (i.e. vs. the EF 50mm f/1.4)
 

Eric Hiss

Member
and here's the chart for the 50mm summicron at f/2.0

Just for comparison sake here the chart from the 50mm summicron. This is the latest type IV with ROM and a very sharp lens indeed. My tests were mostly casual - I hung the 13x19 paper on the wall (and it wasn't flat unfortunately. Lots of glare off the paper but so what. I was trying to figure out which of my lenses to sell and which to keep. I've got them all still. But the funny thing is I never user either the lux or cron - I use my 35-70 f/2.8 elmarit zoom and its probably sharper than both of these guys. I know it is at 70mm at least.

http://www.eh21.com/example pics/50mm_Cron_Chart_f_2.0.jpg
 

Eric Hiss

Member
Eric, you're kidding right? (Replying to a hand-held snapshot in low light with a carefully setup test chart.)

Actually no I'm not. My shots were all hand held, and the one taken with the cron was at ISO 800. Look you went and posted an image claiming the lens was "brilliantly sharp" - and I'm challenging that. Feel free to post one you are more confident in if you like - we both have already made our lens choices but maybe it will be important to someone else? I posted the charts because I had them and thought someone might like to see them - I think its obvious from both our snaps that the canon is not as sharp. Even the 1970 zuiko looks sharper - just look at the hat!

Both the zuiko and the leica summicron also show more 3D effect than the canon 1.2 as well. Your snap shot of the house looks flat. If you took it with either the zuiko, the lux, or the cron you'd get detail in the plant leaves not just a seemingly sharp edge. You'd probably also see bits of dirt on the ground on the left side where the focal plane was. That is not a sharp lens. It might have a more pleasing look to it than the canon 50 f/1.4 but its not winning any contests for sharpness. I like the look of my zuiko and lux better than either of the canon's, but that's my opinion.
 
Look you went and posted an image claiming the lens was exquisitely sharp - and I'm challenging that.

I believe my words were "I think it resolves very well" - which I maintain it does, in the context of (mostly) the Canon 50mm f/1.4 wide open (the main point of this thread). Apart from the many statements around the fact that resolving power at f/1.2 is actually not the main attraction of this lens, but overall character.

And you know what? I think your test chart photograph looks flat as well.
 

Tim Armes

New member
Wow, this topic certainly drew some replies.

In the end I decided to settle on the 1.4. The 1.2 is clearly better, but I just can't justify the cost - I'm better off buying another lens with the money saved...

Tim
 
Indeed Tim, congratulations on causing such a stir with such a simple set of questions! And your decision probably makes sense, the 1.4 is still a very very good lens, and if you can't answer with a resounding "yes" the question "do you need to shoot above f/1.4 most of the time?" I would also have done the same.

I am currently looking at selling my beloved 28-300L for a similar reason: I am mostly (these days) only using it in the 200-300mm range, so I really don't need an expensive, complex, heavy monster with 23 elements. No point in burdening yourself with something you don't absolutely need (and "need" could simply be based on your style or preferences).

I, however, shoot my 50L at f/1.2 almost all of the time (I specifically use it for extreme low-light, or extreme subject isolation/bokeh - as, otherwise, my 100mm f/2.8 Macro trashes the 50L in all aspects of image quality, as well as auto-focus speed and accuracy). So, for "general" shooting I still often use the 100mm lens most of the time - it suits my style better.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hold it, Dawid! Before you sell that "monster" please tell us about it in a new thread. I've been so wondering about the 28-300 L for use as a fashion runway, "Cat Walk" lens. I have struggled with the 70-200 being not long enough and then too long!

So please do what you did here and let's see how much experience there is with the 28-300 and how preople use it!

Tim,

I used the 50 1.4 as a main and usually only lens in most of my photography for a long time from Pentax to Canon film cameras. It;'s great to shoot at 50 mm and it's surprising how much one can do with this one lens. As pixel count has increased, this focal legth has become more useful since we can harvest small portions of an image.

Wish you good shooting.

BTW, will you use the lens for your work documenting artisans?

Asher
 
Hi Asher, I will (when time permits) certainly start a topic discussing the 28-300L (and my experience with it, and some images, etc) and my thoughs around keeping it/selling it. I shall do so soon.
 

Eric Hiss

Member
doesn't Steven Eastwood use the 28-300

I might be mistaken but I think Steven Eastwood shoots fashion with that zoom. Or was it the older 35-350? hmm.... well he makes pretty dang good work with it.
 
I recently got the 50/1.2 and am very impressed, using my 1Ds2, by how it draws generally and the OOF areas of a picture in particular . The latter is a good thing since I find focus erratic at close quarters for portraiture. This is all the more surprising when using an assigned peripheral focus point (see the link kindly provided by Bart earlier in this thread). I've had a good deal of experience using my splendid 85/1.2, and am accustomed to following Mark Tucker's injunction to overshoot to be sure to get a good picture because of the shallow DOF when using these fast lenses wide open. That said, the 50/1.2 appears to me to be unreliable in focus at close quarters, which has not been my experience with the 85/1.2. And whereas I'm impressed by the color, contrast, sharpness and build of the former, I would not put it in the same class as the latter. In short, I'm in something of a conundrum about this lens, liking the image quality it delivers, but wishing that it would be more reliable in focus performance for the uses that I put it to.
 
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