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Drill Now!

Why should we down here in the Gulf Coast area be the only ones lucky enough to have these things dotted everywhere out in our bays and off shore as well? I think we should spread the wealth and drill off of the California, Florida, and the entire Eastern seaboard shores...don't you? We all certainly want the oil and gas that comes from them. I think we should all have the opportunity to see them upclose and personal. Silly looking pelicans standing on an old, crap covered wellhead. You just can't beat it.
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Why should we down here in the Gulf Coast area be the only ones lucky enough to have these things dotted everywhere out in our bays and off shore as well? I think we should spread the wealth and drill off of the California, Florida, and the entire Eastern seaboard shores...don't you? We all certainly want the oil and gas that comes from them. I think we should all have the opportunity to see them upclose and personal. Silly looking pelicans standing on an old, crap covered wellhead. You just can't beat it.

James, that's a fine politically positioned photograph of pelicans.

Actually, I like the picture of proud passivist pellicans protesting peacefully against petrolium products and other perturbations pandering people permit in pristine places that pelicans place themselves.

Asher
 
You are absolutely right Gary. I probably prematurely lumped in California based only on something that I had heard on the radio. That is never a good idea. It always pays to investigate and double check anything heard or read anywhere in our media. I also read about a "rig to reef" proposal where oil companies will leave the rigs once they stop producing instead of removing them and returning the area to it's previous condition. Removing costs the big oil people a ton of money. It is much easier just to leave them as reefs that attract and increase fish populations or as in my picture, pelican roosts. There are also studies to try and see if that even really happens. Yes, these rigs attract fish but do they actually help increase populations? They do not know. Anyway, if they do remove, they need to remove completely. I have trashed two props on my boat and almost the lower end of my motor in the past two years just by running into pipelines that were unmarked and submerged 6 inches below the surface. Quite a shocker when running along at 40 mph.

Fahim, you too are absolutely correct. We can all use more pelicans. I really like these birds even if I did say they were silly looking.

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Gary Ayala

New member
James -

Marine wise, a solid substrait is a bonanza for creating a food base (lowest rung of the food chain). Loose and shifting sand does not compete against rocks, which is why you see nearly every square inch of a solid substrait covered with multi-layers of life.

It is pretty much an accepted fact that: Rigs = rocks = a solid substrait = high producing food base = more life at the higher rungs

The jury is still out on the long term affects on isolated islands of highly concentrated life in a body of water where said concentrations didn't exit before.

Artificial reefs are fairly common in California, but California has a very rocky shore and already sports, IIRC, the largest (but rapidly diminishing) rock fish populations in the world.

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California does have a moratorium on building new platforms. In fact next week the Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors will be voting on lifting the moratorium for their county. Which is quite amazing because it was Santa Barbara who after a horrible oil spill, (I think that horrible and oil spill is redundant), in the 70's initiated the first California coastal moratorium against new oil drilling platforms. Additionally, Santa Barbara is one of those environmentally sensitive/correct, rich, liberal California cities, (mmmhh make that very rich), that the rest of the country likes to point to while rolling their eyes.

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Gary
 
Was the spill that you speak of in the 70's from a producing platform or did it involve a tanker or something? I am just curious because most of the occurences have indeed resulted from the transporting of oil, not the production of it. I am a sportfisherman and I am all for keeping our waters clean and life giving. I also use a boat to go out and catch these fish so I am in favor of gasoline as well. I just don't particularly like having to pay $4 per gallon for it when I don't think it is really necessary. Now, with tongue planted somewhat lightly in cheek, I have mineral rights on my grandparent's land here in Texas and they just started exploratory drilling on it a few months ago. If my well comes in, I am sure my position on "big oil" will change dramatically:) Isn't that the way of the world sometimes?

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Gary Ayala

New member
The big spill was from a platform. Even today you can find black blobs of oil daily tossed up on the shore of sandy beaches.
 

Gary Ayala

New member
Yep, that's the one. BTW- the clumps of oil I am referring to are not from the '69 spill ... oil operations are messy and their mess rolls in with the tide.

Gary
 
Yeah I gathered that. I lived in Florida for a number of years and these clumps of tarlike oil would wash up all the time. I had one more picture I wanted to post. Two actually if you count the crop. I was looking through some more of my pictures from our trip yesterday and was pleased with this one in particular. Even in the wake of a giant oil tanker, life abounds in our bays. With a little more care, maybe they both can survive. This image was one of many I took of this tanker as it passed us in the ship channel. What I did not see at the time, and not until today when doing some post processing, was the beautiful dolphin playing in the wake in front of the ship. I was pleasantly surprised to find the added bonus.

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I was very surprised to NOT find any discussion at all on this forum concerning the tragic oil spill going on right now. I thought sure I could come here and find at least a little interesting and intelligent banter. The only thing I found even remotely close to the subject was this thread I started almost 2 years ago. The pictures of those "silly" pelicans makes me wonder if any of them were the same ones I have been seeing lately covered and drowning in the oil in our gulf.
James Newman

PS _ I am in the Arizona desert now and no longer own my bay boat. There is no water here.
 

John Angulat

pro member
I was very surprised to NOT find any discussion at all on this forum concerning the tragic oil spill going on right now. I thought sure I could come here and find at least a little interesting and intelligent banter. The only thing I found even remotely close to the subject was this thread I started almost 2 years ago. The pictures of those "silly" pelicans makes me wonder if any of them were the same ones I have been seeing lately covered and drowning in the oil in our gulf.
James Newman

PS _ I am in the Arizona desert now and no longer own my bay boat. There is no water here.

Hi James,
Happily, not surprising to me. Allow me to explain my feelings.
One of the aspects I love about OPF is the fact we are a photography driven site. Images, equipment and discussion surrounding such.
We are not a political, enviromental, religion et al "open chat" forum.
Should we be discussing Afghanistan, Iraq, the Greek economic collapse, earthquakes in Haiti?
I don't believe so.
Unless a member had pertinent images they captured regarding this albeit tragic event, that dialog is better left for other venues.
Just my two cent's worth...
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Hi James,
Happily, not surprising to me. Allow me to explain my feelings.
One of the aspects I love about OPF is the fact we are a photography driven site. Images, equipment and discussion surrounding such.
We are not a political, enviromental, religion et al "open chat" forum.
Should we be discussing Afghanistan, Iraq, the Greek economic collapse, earthquakes in Haiti?
I don't believe so.
Unless a member had pertinent images they captured regarding this albeit tragic event, that dialog is better left for other venues.
Just my two cent's worth...

John,

This thread was started with a witty intro and a photograph. It not only showed light from the subject. It is a lantern to hold up. That, should also be part of the job of the photographer.

Think of all the greats? They held up a large light to see ourselves and the only planet we have as our inheritance. Still, if it's bloody, or over-political, we have sections for that so folk won't get too shocked about what's really around us!

Asher
 

Mike Shimwell

New member
I was very surprised to NOT find any discussion at all on this forum concerning the tragic oil spill going on right now. I thought sure I could come here and find at least a little interesting and intelligent banter. The only thing I found even remotely close to the subject was this thread I started almost 2 years ago. The pictures of those "silly" pelicans makes me wonder if any of them were the same ones I have been seeing lately covered and drowning in the oil in our gulf.
James Newman

PS _ I am in the Arizona desert now and no longer own my bay boat. There is no water here.


Bit difficult to know what to say about it really from over here in the UK.

Love the picture of the dolphin running ahead of the ship though. I hadn't seen that before

Mike
 
The dolphin was quite a pleasant surprise. Sitting here in the desert in 105 degrees I sometimes miss being out on that water in the Gulf. So far the mess has not made its way down to the Texas coast but I am afraid it is only a matter of time until a tropical storm or hurricane spreads the mess everywhere down there. I guess there really isn't a whole lot to say. I am as guilty and oil addicted as anyone else. I just hope we learn from the calamity and make some changes so that it does not happen again. I am not too confident however that this will happen.
James Newman
 

Rachel Foster

New member
This probably doesn't fit here, and it's admittedly trite, but I am reminded of an image I saw online. This is a painting at the Well Sweep Gallery.

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My great-grandmothers were on the Trail of Tears. I think the Grandmothers are still weeping.
 
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