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Enhancing just the shadows: how is it done?

Rachel Foster

New member
I was on the way to tossing this photo as "max blah" when I noticed the almost flower-petal design the shadow cast. The oak floor is a horrible background (the color contrasts don't work!), but I'd love to save the shadow patterning.

I'm guessing photoshop could save it...and I'm guessing i'd start with a layer. Am I on the right track? (I need a photoshop break from apertures and isos.)

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I tried an adjustment layer upping the contrast. Didn't work. Maybe black and white?
 
Hi Rachel
I suggest you to look at the histograms.

Dark tones are very poor.

So you can get a better photo applying a level or, better, a curve adjustment.

I used a curve, to slightly increase contrast.

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Curve goes linear (horizontal) to increase dark dynamic range, then has an S-shape to increase contrast at your taste.

When you modify black point (linear step), some tones are clipped. But, as you can see, they belong to the upper-right line in the shot.

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This is the resulting image:
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Hope this helps.
 

Diane Fields

New member
I've seen those (the histograms) but never thought of using them. I tried to adjust via layers. Thank you!

Learning to use a histogram both on your camera and in Photoshop is really important for good exposures and images. I don't know if I know what camera you are using--or if you've said, but most have histograms for viewing after your shot.

A good place to learn about what they mean and how to use them is:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/histograms1.htm

Hope this is helpful.

Diane
 

Diane Fields

New member
Very helpful, thank you.

I've had a Canon Rebel xti for just over a week.

Then I totally understand the enthusiasm *smile*. Just a couple of thoughts---since you've just had the camera a short time and I don't know from what other camera you came from, I assume you have read the manual cover to cover--always a good thing.

Then--even though I'm a strong user of PS and have used it since PS3 (and now use LR also),
1.) I would recommend you get to know your camera well, learning to use the various creative modes (Av, Tv, M) and why (I know others gave good information in your river blog thread), learning how to use the histo and apply EC (exposure compensation) when needed (and ISO when needed also)--and get the best image possible from the camera.

2.) From that point--learn how to work with RAW and your chosen RAW converter. If you have PS (BTW--I don't think we know what version of PS you have which would be helpful when anyone suggests a technique--or esp. in RAW conversion), then you have ACR which is a RAW converter, and if not, you still have DPP (the Canon RAW converter). Take the RAW file and get the best image BEFORE conversion you can.

3.) Convert and use PS to do any post work to get that image to match your 'vision' that you weren't able to do in the actual shot and RAW conversion if needed. And today---with ACR 4.1/2 and /or LR (Lightroom) there are many that feel there's little they have to do after conversion except sharpen for the final output (after resizing if needed), be it web or print--IF they started out with a good exposure and got the best out of that RAW file before conversion to tiff or psd.

Getting that good exposure is easier now than in film days--esp. if the subject is static. The histogram really IS your best friend LOL. Understanding metering, the available modes (evaluative, center weighted and spot if the XTi has it--don't know), using EC when needed---all will contribute to a better image in conjunction with reading the histogram.

Having RAW to work with is wonderful--no more depending upon a lab to develop---you make all the decisions now--and its well worth it to sink your teeth into it and learn it before trying to correct things in PS. When you work in RAW you are able to tweak without degrading the image--before conversion.

Then--of course its great fun to work in PS--so many options and you've gotten some good advice for masking, layers, etc. Once you get a handle on layers and masks your 1/2 way home, so to speak LOL. None of us will ever 'know' all PS, but there's a lot of good info out there.

I won't even touch on things like composition, DOF--any of that which lie in the realm of 'intent' and vision---since its been discussed a good bit in this thread and that's not what I'm addressing. We all want to get out there and shoot--I'm champing at the bit myself right now, but you'll be so much more at ease with the camera and ready to spend time on composing just the right shot in the VF and how you want that shot to look--if you understand the best way to get that shot and what and how you can make it even better afterwards. My final thought though---I do better myself in understanding by hands on--so that means shooting---a lot---but also editing and analysis of what worked, what didn't--and why. We're all here to help, but sometimes it really takes working through some of this yourself as you've mentioned about PS.

One more little thought---I have a huge string of bookmarks that I use to, hopefully, link you to some specific tutorials. Any time you feel you need some help (ex.---if you want to know just how to actually use a RAW converter--there are tutorials that will take you step by step through them), feel free to ask for some of those URLs.

Good shooting,
Diane
 

Rachel Foster

New member
Thank you...sound advice. I've read the manual a couple of times but am starting from ground zero so I am finding I think I understand but (as in the river thread) have it wrong. I'm very motivated to learn the basics as fast as I can so I can become a contributing member of the forum rather than the class dunce!

Again, thank you.
 

Diane Fields

New member
Rachel--I just edited that a bit--so hope its more readable and useful now. Never feel like the dunce LOL--just beginning at the beginning--we've all been there--and have learned from others. It really doesn't come all at once no matter how motivated or how smart. But--it really does all start to come together *smile*

Diane
 

Rachel Foster

New member
Again, thank you. There is no question I will master it. After all, I can program a VCR (joke!). I will learn all of this, but it won't happen as quickly as I'd like. So, it's just like with photoshop: Time to put on my big-girl drawers and knuckle down.
 
Rachel,

One of the basics you need to learn is how to read, interpret, understand, and manipulate the histogram.

Your camera can be set to display the histogram of the just-taken picture after each photo. Learn how to access that function, and get used to using the histogram as your in-camera light meter.

There are a number of good tutorials on the web, here's one
http://www.marginalsoftware.com/HowtoScan/tutorial_page_1.htm

I know that we're all telling you to study this and read that and pay attention to the other, and it all may seem to be a jumble. But good pictures require attention to multiple, technical aspects, in addition to the creativity necessary to make interesting pictures.
 

Rachel Foster

New member
It may seem a jumble now, but trust me: it won't stay that way. I'm carefully paying attention to all the advice/information but am not able to keep pace with absorbing it.

What is happening is that in my ignorance I ask a question that seems fairly simple and find out it's terribly, terribly complicated. So...I play catch up. I'm not keeping pace right now, but I will catch up.

And I am truly appreciative of people's time and the help they are offering.

I promise this: While it won't happen overnight, I will become a contributing member of the forum. I just might even become a pretty damned good amateur photographer. Talent is either there or it's not; on that issue, the "proof is in the pudding." Learning -- whether and how much I learn -- is under my control. That will occur.
 
Rachel
I ask a question that seems fairly simple and find out it's terribly, terribly complicated
Not so complicated. Anything is complicated when you don't know.

Histogram is simple. You can find a lot of tutorial surfing the net.
As soon as you will be comfortable with histograms, you can use them to verify a correct exposure when shoting and learn how to manipulate them in postprocessing.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Thanks to everyone for being so helpful. Rachel will now practice the great ideas shared here.

We don't need to discuss this further until Rachel has digested and practiced the advice given here. We want this thread to be used as a future reference so I'm closing this just for now and when Rachel has results, we'll re-open!

Hope this sits well with you. The thread will stay open just long enough to see it there is no objection to what I propose!

With courtesy,

Asher
 

Rachel Foster

New member
Wonderful idea. I have an 11-page document with information I've received here to study. I've copied every suggestion (I hope) and am diving in!
 
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