My World: Last Sunday on Wallberg

[Michael Nagel]

Last Sunday we were up on Wallberg (attention, German description). The sight was exceptional, here are a few impressions.

To the west




House, Mountains and Sky




Gestaffelt




Distant Mountains - other day​

Best regards,
Michael

 

[Cem_Usakligil]

Hi Michael,

Fantastic views, thanks for sharing. The BW ones (1&3) are better imo.

 

[StuartRae]

Hi Michael,

Number 4 is superb, although I'd be tempted to crop out the bottom third. I just can't understand why some people prefer B&W landscapes - my problem, not a criticism.

Regards,

Stuart

 

[Cem_Usakligil]

Hi Michael,

Number 4 is superb, although I'd be tempted to crop out the bottom third. I just can't understand why some people prefer B&W landscapes - my problem, not a criticism.

Regards,

Stuart

Stuart you know well that I am one of the proponents of color here in OPF. I would like 1&3 even better if they were in color. The reason I prefer them above 2&4 is not due to BW but because I think that they are better pictures. #2 is imo mediocre and #4 has some potential but needs a different pp. Again, imo.

 

[Asher Kelman]

I'd go along with Cem here, well at least part way! It might very well be that the pictures shown as B&W are better pictures off the mark! However, by removing the color, the patterns and textures work very well together. So, unless the colors are spectacular, I suspect that these 2 pictures in color will not outshine the B&W versions.

Asher

 

[Michael Nagel]

Cem,

thanks, it was a wonderful day, I hope to be able to include this impression into the photos.


Stuart,

thanks - I did the same with a similar photo taken last year, but I decided to leave this part in to show the effect of the air on the color. The distance of the mountain shown in #4 is 100km!


Asher,

thanks, I changed to b/w on 1 and 3 for the textures, plasticity, the play of light and shadow. The colors would have required good PP to come out better. B/W was the better choice for me.



I see that #2 is not up to the level of the other three in your eyes, it is not the kind of photo liked on first sight, but there is another reason I included it:
#3 is included in the photo (different angle, you ca see the house on the lower right)
#4 is also included (follow the contrail on the left and you see the mountain, but very small).

Best regards,
Michael

 

[StuartRae]

Stuart you know well that I am one of the proponents of color here in OPF. I would like 1&3 even better if they were in color. The reason I prefer them above 2&4 is not due to BW but because I think that they are better pictures. #2 is imo mediocre and #4 has some potential but needs a different pp. Again, imo.

Hi Cem,

The comment wasn't directed at you, just a general musing. As the images are presented I prefer #4. I can't make a reasoned decision about #1 without seeing it in colour.

Regards,

Stuart

 

[Cem_Usakligil]

Hi Michael,

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House, Mountains and Sky...​

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Stuart you know well that I am one of the proponents of color here in OPF. I would like 1&3 even better if they were in color. The reason I prefer them above 2&4 is not due to BW but because I think that they are better pictures. #2 is imo mediocre and #4 has some potential but needs a different pp. Again, imo.

I have been feeling unhappy about my statement about the #2 being mediocre. Perhaps I should have taken the time to express myself a bit better, apologies.

What I was trying to say is that the way it was presented it looked like an ordinary snapshot. The bottom part is too dark and there is too much sky for my taste. I know that I am treading on thin ice here. It is not my intention to present my own taste as a better way, not at all. I am just writing this with all the best intentions in mind. So I had a go at your small jpg file and played around with it in SNS-HDR and LR3. This is what I came up with. Again, I am not saying that it is any better, just a different presentation. If you want me to remove this edit, please tell me and I will take it off line.

Image by Michael Nagel, edited by CU


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[fahim mohammed]

Hi Michael

Me too me too

Lovely captures all but the be have

A life of their own and are super

The graphic images devoid of color

Distractions are far more pleasing

And impactful for me

Regards

 

[Michael Nagel]

Cem,

don't worry - different views make life more interesting as long as these are dealt with in a civilized way like I experience here in this forum. Please do not remove your version.

Your version is a different approach with its own merit. It is true that I was a bit lazy on PP and as I prefer to expose in a way that avoids clipping highlights the whole scene is darker that the other three.

My intention with this photo was to create some sort of a visual loop - the bright (well not as it should be) house (especially the roof) with the brighter grass around leading the eye over the darker, forested mountains to the brighter, snowy peaks at the horizon and over the larger sky back to the house again. I know - it is a stretch and requires some imagination, but why not?



Fahim,

thank you. There are two more b/w I have from that day - maybe I should have posted these with the other two. Here they are.

Depth




Take that turn​

Best regards,
Michael

 

[Cem_Usakligil]

Cem,

don't worry - different views make life more interesting as long as these are dealt with in a civilized way like I experience here in this forum. Please do not remove your version.

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Now that you have seen it, it has fulfilled its purpose. I have removed it as I generally don't like people "pushing" their own views onto others and I don't want to look like one.

 

[StuartRae]

Hi Michael,

As you may have gathered, I'm not a great fan of B&W landscapes, but I really love #1. Wonderful layering of mountain ranges, and in this example B&W works very well. If it were possible to remove the hint of detail in the closer mountains, possibly by extreme noise reduction, it would be even better.
Thanks for posting it.

Regards,

Stuart

 

[Michael Nagel]

Cem,

I did not experience it as 'pushing' - to me it was merely offering a different view. I respect your decision to remove it, but personally I like it as counterpoint to the version I posted and both combined make a beautiful example on how PP can alter the view on a landscape.

Still - I am interested in a take on my idea of a visual loop, how far-fetched my idea might be

Best regards,
Michael

 

[Michael Nagel]

Stuart,

Thanks! Your proposition sounds interesting - on the other hand the contrast between structure/detail and soft shapes would disappear. I'm torn.

Best regards,
Michael