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Misty winter morning

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Thanks for looking.






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Cheers,
 

Mike Shimwell

New member
Hi Cem

Very nice. I always like the semi pano ratio of about 2:1.

My only concern is the shrubby bit of plant at the left foreground, as its size makes it just a bit to prominent for me. but a nice picture and I like the way the horison detail is softened by the mist.

MIke
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Hi Mike, Bart,

Thanks for your kind comments.

..My only concern is the shrubby bit of plant at the left foreground, as its size makes it just a bit to prominent for me. but a nice picture and I like the way the horison detail is softened by the mist.
I have shrunk the shrub a bit, is it better this way?

...Perhaps toning down the blue saturation a bit would improve the image? I'm not sure, but perhaps worth trying
Along with the shrub, I did reduce the blue saturation as suggested. What do you reckon?





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Cheers,

 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
...If you don't mind, here's one of mine:

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Of course I don't mind, on the contrary! I really like the image. Knowing how difficult it is to achieve the "right" color temperature, I must say you have done a good job. The composition is spot on, the only slight concern I have is about the land mass in the bottom right side.

Cheers,
 
The composition is spot on, the only slight concern I have is about the land mass in the bottom right side.

Thanks, I composed in the viewfinder, full frame, no cropping. I think colo(u)r is essential in this image.

Yes, the landmass has my concern as well (that's why I placed my copyright notice there ;-) ). Maybe I'll reduce the overall contrast by brightening the shadow areas, but I didn't want to lose the difference between the frost covered lower land nearer to the water and the higher path. Maybe I'll just brighten the frosty patch at the right of the path.

Cheers,
Bart
 

John Angulat

pro member
I have shrunk the shrub a bit, is it better this way?
Along with the shrub, I did reduce the blue saturation as suggested. What do you reckon?





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Cheers,​
Hi Cem,
Sorry for the belated comments...
I didn't see a problem with the shrub. In fact, I think it helps bring attention to the foreground. Otherwise I'd lose a sense of perspective.
I like the reduction in the blue saturation. The image was a bit too bright and this has helped to soften the overall mood.
Nicely done!
 

Steve Robinson

New member
Hi Cem. I like the soft lighting created by the mist. I also like the foreground brush which to me gives a greater sense of depth. Nicely done.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Cem and Bart,

These pictures definitely move us to Photographic art of a higher order. Both allow the mind to bring to your scenes our own ideas, contemplation and muse. I personally appreciate this as it's much needed to depart from the overarching rigorous clarity of so many great photographs. I am one of the guilty but offer as defense that I photograph mostly for documentation and public relations were things need to be defined. However, your presentations are even more clear that sharp images. We can learn a lot from these two pictures.

Asher
 

Mike Shimwell

New member
Hi Cem, I do prefer the second version. I think going back and trimming the shrub before reshooting was the correct thing to do(!) and the lower saturation gives a softer presentation that is more in keeping with the image.

Would you mind if I added an old one of mine?

Mike
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Cem and Bart,

These pictures definitely move us to Photographic art of a higher order. Both allow the mind to bring to your scenes our own ideas, contemplation and muse. I personally appreciate this as it's much needed to depart from the overarching rigorous clarity of so many great photographs. I am one of the guilty but offer as defense that I photograph mostly for documentation and public relations were things need to be defined. However, your presentations are even more clear that sharp images. We can learn a lot from these two pictures.

Asher
Thanks Asher, the thought of not having to make an image with a lot of clarity was one of the goals for this series indeed (speaking on my behalf).

Cheers,
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Hi John, Steve,

Thanks for your kind comments.

Hi Cem,
Sorry for the belated comments...
I didn't see a problem with the shrub. In fact, I think it helps bring attention to the foreground. Otherwise I'd lose a sense of perspective.
I like the reduction in the blue saturation. The image was a bit too bright and this has helped to soften the overall mood.
Nicely done!
Well, the shrub discussion is one I have doubts about, although Mike seems to be sure that the shorter one is better.

Hi Cem. I like the soft lighting created by the mist. I also like the foreground brush which to me gives a greater sense of depth. Nicely done.
Yes, that was the idea of having that foreground detail in the picture. Glad to hear it works.

Cheers,
 

Mike Shimwell

New member
Thanks Cem, and now to be greedy...

The first photos reminded me of this picture from a fwe years ago, just after I got my 5D


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and then I also remembered this one, which remains a favourite print on very soft slightly textured rag paper.


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Thanks for letting me share

Mike
 

janet Smith

pro member
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Hi Cem

Some lovely shots here, but this one is very special, beautifully framed, lovely gentle delicate colours, only thing I would change would be to clone out the top of the fence post just visible almost in the centre bottom of the shot.
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
..Some lovely shots here, but this one is very special, beautifully framed, lovely gentle delicate colours, only thing I would change would be to clone out the top of the fence post just visible almost in the centre bottom of the shot.
Thanks Jan, also for the excellent suggestion. I have just adjusted the image accordingly (you may have to refresh the page in your browser to see it).

Cheers,
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Thanks Cem, and now to be greedy...

The first photos reminded me of this picture from a fwe years ago, just after I got my 5D


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and then I also remembered this one, which remains a favourite print on very soft slightly textured rag paper.


4406169125_1b8e2622fc_o.jpg


Thanks for letting me share

Mike
Hi Mike,

These are both excellent images, thanks for sharing them here. I truly cannot decide which one I like more. The first one has great tones, mirror-like water, soft and hard divided vertically into two halves of the picture. The second one has the great composition with the arches of the tree branches mimicking the bridge arches and the subtle hues and the mysterious feelings it evokes. Great job! :)

Cheers,
 
Misty winter morning - The making of ...

Hi folks,

Here is another one from the same session:

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This is a 244 degree horizontal FOV, cylindrical projection, panorama which shows the difficulty of rendering such a scene in a small size. At the right we have a backlit scene, while at the left we have a frontally lit scene. Not only does it change the lighting intensity, but also the color / saturation. This really should be seen full size (50x18 inches, 127x46 cm at 300 PPI).

Cheers,
Bart
 
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StuartRae

New member
Hi Bart,

This really should be seen full size.....
Big panoramas never really work squashed onto a screen, but I can imagine the full glory of a 50" print.

The stitching software's done a pretty good job. What did you use? PTGui? How many frames? Did you have to manually adjust the control points or did it stitch automatically?

The only blemish is the odd patch just above the trees on the far right, which looks almost, but not quite, blown (#FDFDFD).

Regards,

Stuart
 
Hi Bart,


Big panoramas never really work squashed onto a screen, but I can imagine the full glory of a 50" print.

The stitching software's done a pretty good job. What did you use? PTGui? How many frames? Did you have to manually adjust the control points or did it stitch automatically?

Hi Stewart,

The pano consists of 1 row of 8 portrait orientation shots with my TS-E 24mm 3.5 L II. The panohead was RRS. I used approx. 1 degree of tilt to get both the foreground and the horizon in focus. Stitching was done with PTAssembler. This stitch is based on automatic controlpoints, for the final version I may double check them manually for an even better fit, but it's pretty good as is.

The Smartblend engine made imperfections, if any, invisible, and it also did a good job of hiding exposure differences and differences in the whitebalance between tiles. Those differences were intentional to compensate for the camera's AWB (I let the camera decide, and tweak at Raw conversion).

The only blemish is the odd patch just above the trees on the far right, which looks almost, but not quite, blown (#FDFDFD).

Well it was actually blown, so I had to 'repair' it a bit. I shot single exposures (no HDR) because of the low subject contrast for each single tile. The scene has a higher contrast, but that was to a large extent mitigated by Raw conversion and Smartblending. I have another exposure of that last tile to the right, one without the fellow photographer, and that shot has a better exposure (only the sun is clipped in that one).

Cheers,
Bart
 

Thanks Arun.

The Dutch landscapes are a challenge to make something decent out of, it's mostly flat. This was taken in a nice location with an anticipated foggy morning. It had been freezing during the night which helped to solidify the soggy marsh land which is the home to lots of birds, wild horses, and oxen. Due to the temperature difference between water and land, fog was inevitable, that's why we went there early, just after sun rise.

Cheers,
Bart
 

StuartRae

New member
Hi Bart,

Thanks for the info.

Well it was actually blown, so I had to 'repair' it a bit.
I noticed it because it looked like an attempt by Bibble to recover highlights when there's information in only one channel. Looks out of place and artificial.

Regards,

Stuart
 

Cem_Usakligil

Well-known member
Hi Bart,

A very nice one! Technically it is as good as it gets (crisp, well stitched and projected, good composition, etc), but also a nice to see the warm tones and the light and deep blues of the water and the sky, with the occasional fluffy cloud thrown in. I am sure it will look very impressive when printed large.

It seems that this thread is turning into a tête-à-tête, so I'll take my parting shot with the following pictures. I have posted a lot recently and I need to have a break :).





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Cheers,
 
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