I didn't think criticism was bad! This is critique so stating something is provocative merely says it makes one respond. There's nothing bad in that.Provocative was not a criticism. I realized belatedly it might be taken that way. If I have a criticism I'll lay it out in more detail.
Hi Ken,James has not told us exactly what he's trying for...again.
Too many words by observers, too few by the picture-taker. I see nothing whatsoever notable about this photo.
Hi James,Thanks for the comments.. This just a funshoot with other hobbyist.. We just hire model.. I just feel the passion for it... or am i just missing something???
Thanks for clarifying. As you see, OPF is different from other forums. People tend to look for the artistic content as well, or seek to learn from what's being shared. In general we all attempt to grow our level of skill/creativity, so things offered are not taken at face value.
Agreed!So I've looked at this picture and read this thread several times and have come to the conclusion that what I see is an newbie attempt at a glamor shot.
There's more wrong with it than right, but I think James got some parts right;
I think the models are pretty, long legged young women suitable to the assignment
The concept of posing them in the doorway, back to back almost works
And the woman on the left's look over her shoulder is good
Most of this is valid I believe but the excess wall can be part of a composition and I liked that potential but then I'd show much more and have it very asymmetrical. The point you make about no shadow and hence no drama is valid. Still, even lighting is needed before one adds more to make the drama. So I see the lighting as not flawed but simply not completed. Getting even illumination in the recess is still pretty good.But, there are too many distractions;
The door grille/grate growing out of one woman's head
The wide framing to include so much blank wall - the women are the subject, why do they occupy only 1/3 of the frame width
Why did you shoot from a low angle? In a frame like this it doesn't work at all.
The fact that the whole thing is out of square doesn't help
The light is completely diffuse, no shadows means no drama.
Thanks for articulating this. Good job.Overall the picture has no drama, no shadows, nothing left unsaid, and too many distractions
I appreciate you spending the effort to try to elucidate why this picture falls short. I feel better for it. I hope James that charles' critique is most helpful to you. There are not many places that will treat such a picture in such a solid helpful way. If you heed what has been written it will be a deed that has been worthwhile. I do hope this discussion is helpful.I think James should continue working on this kind of stuff if it's what he likes. He'll get better at it. Everything takes practice and as long as you're willing to accept honest criticism and learn from it, this is a good place to learn.