John_Nevill
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Jack/Asher,
I was having a similar debate at my local camera club, e.g. the issue of what constitutes digital manipulation. Most photo comps specify this as a rule, but is it enforceable? Only if you see the data verified RAW, but then again has the RAW had any manipulation?
Ok where am I going with this?, 20 years ago we stretched stockings, grad filters and vaseline over the front of our lenses and it was deemed acceptable. Likewise was push processing, dodging, burning and multiple exposures (in the camera or via an enlarger). Yep I confess to photographing objects against dark/light background and putting subjects inside them. It took hours in the darkroom to perfect!
Today we have photoshop tools, cameras which have picture styles, aid in compostion and have myriad of corrective features (crop in camera, NR, sharpening, dust bunny removal etc), so has evolution moved the art line in this context?
What will tomorrow's technology bring? Will cameras give us the ability to extract objects and overlay them in other frames, or even remove unsightly objects?
I suppose the fundamental argument is whether its documentary or not, but equally this is now coming under scrutiny.
So I have to agree with Ansel's quote, a photo is made!
Hence, I would go one step further and suggest its called "digital presentation".
I was having a similar debate at my local camera club, e.g. the issue of what constitutes digital manipulation. Most photo comps specify this as a rule, but is it enforceable? Only if you see the data verified RAW, but then again has the RAW had any manipulation?
Ok where am I going with this?, 20 years ago we stretched stockings, grad filters and vaseline over the front of our lenses and it was deemed acceptable. Likewise was push processing, dodging, burning and multiple exposures (in the camera or via an enlarger). Yep I confess to photographing objects against dark/light background and putting subjects inside them. It took hours in the darkroom to perfect!
Today we have photoshop tools, cameras which have picture styles, aid in compostion and have myriad of corrective features (crop in camera, NR, sharpening, dust bunny removal etc), so has evolution moved the art line in this context?
What will tomorrow's technology bring? Will cameras give us the ability to extract objects and overlay them in other frames, or even remove unsightly objects?
I suppose the fundamental argument is whether its documentary or not, but equally this is now coming under scrutiny.
So I have to agree with Ansel's quote, a photo is made!
Hence, I would go one step further and suggest its called "digital presentation".