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fahim mohammed
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And beautifully enchanting!!
Charlotte Thompson
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Fahim
Cool! She looks like she just dropped in from Alice's Wonderland! Cuteness
Charlotte-
Cool! She looks like she just dropped in from Alice's Wonderland! Cuteness
Charlotte-
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Damn fabulous! She really knows how to use her make up and show a great smile!
How did you meet her?
Asher
James Lemon
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Fahim, Charlotte, Asher
Glad you folks like the image!! She is a professional model Asher.
Glad you folks like the image!! She is a professional model Asher.
Paul Abbott
New member
James, you have some great subjects, but with this one her extremities are all brutally cut off, without any regard it looks like...and there is no balance to the image as a result.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
What is stunning is that I myself did not realize that. I was so taken by her face and metal ornamental necklace!
Paul, explain that. I do not intend to be oblivious to poor framing. But I guess I am impulsive, far too impulsive and need to reflect before buying anything!
Asher
Doug Kerr
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Paul Abbott
New member
That is not the full frame portrait by Karsh of Churchill, that is some useless crop...
Doug Kerr
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Hi, Paul,
Yes, that Smithsonian Institution is so careless to release such a useless thing.
Best regards,
Doug
Yes, that Smithsonian Institution is so careless to release such a useless thing.
Best regards,
Doug
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Karsh - Ottawa
It's fitting that a badly cropped picture should frame so well a brilliant beast of a statesman!
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
James,
There's no question that the picture is impressive. As with the oddly cropped Churchill portrait, the subject powerfully distracts from the organic and unnecessary disorder. While one can get away with this, it's not good practice!
I commend Paul for being gutsy enough to state what is wrong, as no one else did. This is how we learn discipline. That is not to say I now dislike the picture, but with the skills you show, this omission in technique is, for me at least, a wake up call to not get distracted by immediate impressions and be carried away by beauty. Of course the picture can succeed anyway, but paying attention to good framing practice, likely as not, will deliver an even better picture 99% of the time!
Asher
Paul Abbott
New member
What is going on here? Come on...I don't care what the Smithsonian does!
Anyway, I'll always remember reading something by David Bailey to this effect a long long time ago when I started out in photography, and it's backed up by these links below. I seem to remember it was stated that the extremities need to be paid careful attention just as much as the face, and used in an organic, natural and effective way.
Here are a couple of guides for anyone who is interested: http://petapixel.com/2011/09/29/crop-guidelines-for-portrait-photography/
https://news.smugmug.com/2015/02/06/8-rules-to-remember-that-make-more-powerful-portraits/
Anyway, I'll always remember reading something by David Bailey to this effect a long long time ago when I started out in photography, and it's backed up by these links below. I seem to remember it was stated that the extremities need to be paid careful attention just as much as the face, and used in an organic, natural and effective way.
Here are a couple of guides for anyone who is interested: http://petapixel.com/2011/09/29/crop-guidelines-for-portrait-photography/
https://news.smugmug.com/2015/02/06/8-rules-to-remember-that-make-more-powerful-portraits/
Michael Ritter
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Nice pic and I especially love the white frizzy hair!
Peter Dexter
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I agree that the crop is awkward cutting her hand off. Is there an aesthetic reason behind that choice? The crop Churchill portrait is more acceptable because it doesn't off any part of him at a joint. That said, never tire of looking at pretty girls.
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Karsh, Alvedon, Leibowitz and other "famous" photographers, wouldn't have framed like this, for sure. But cannot we at least look at and consider a picture that is such a departure from norms?
Yes, the forearm is cut off, but that does not alter the fact that the subject is still engaging and interesting. The very oddity also makes the picture stand out. I have seen portraits with a pole directly behind the subjects head, as if purposely confronting our sensibilities to be served the expected formats.
Asher
James Lemon
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It is nice that most of the composition police have been able to remain somewhat positive. I appreciate your feedback in this regard. My ideas, views, about what photography is or isn't does differ from most. The only reason for posting is that I like the image!
Best, regards
James
Best, regards
James
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
James,
Thanks for the la k of super thin skin!
Still, I do wonder how much the impact of the picture would be altered if the entire hand was visible.
Did you only take this one picture of her that day?
Asher
James Lemon
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Asher
This was some time ago but I do recall that one of them was used by a casting director but here are two more.
Best, regards
James
Asher Kelman
OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
She is super georgeous! Thanks James!
Much appreciated!
Asher
Much appreciated!
Asher
Doug Kerr
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Hi, James,
Terrific shot of a stunning girl!
Now if only we could see her entire left elbow. You are such a tease.
Best regards,
Doug
Terrific shot of a stunning girl!
Now if only we could see her entire left elbow. You are such a tease.
Best regards,
Doug
Jerome Marot
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You know what? I'm a bit of a cheater.
If I am asked to take a portrait (which does not happen so often and never of such attractive women, but I digress), I also find it difficult to take attention of both the expression on the face and the movements of the hands. Consequently, I have been criticised (in less polite terms than on this well managed forum) for cutting a finger or two.
I like to believe that there is an engineering solution to every problem. I realised that, with modern cameras, we have much more pixels than we need. Now I use a slightly shorter focal length lens and crop to taste afterwards.
If I am asked to take a portrait (which does not happen so often and never of such attractive women, but I digress), I also find it difficult to take attention of both the expression on the face and the movements of the hands. Consequently, I have been criticised (in less polite terms than on this well managed forum) for cutting a finger or two.
I like to believe that there is an engineering solution to every problem. I realised that, with modern cameras, we have much more pixels than we need. Now I use a slightly shorter focal length lens and crop to taste afterwards.