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some planar projections from Catalonia

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Valentin Arfire

New member
hello friends,

here are some photos
projection Mercator;
except LaRoca (which was rotated) the only intervention was a crop
please tell me what you think of them

http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/cadaquesb_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/cadaquesh_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/galiciac_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/garrigaolivesd_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/laRoca_c_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/montjuicf_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/sagradac_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/Sagrada-E_800.jpg
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/tibidabob_800.jpg
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Lets look at the actual images!

Hi Valentin,

It's nice to be able to see the pictures here, directly. You can also use a link to a larger PANO! It's not clear which are planar and which are Mercator.


cadaquesb_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 1



cadaquesh_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 2


garrigaolivesd_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 3


galiciac_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 4​



If you could introduce and place the others in the same way, it would be greatly appreciated. Pictures here are prettier than links alone. We can always handle 800 pixel wide pitures!

Asher
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
cadaquesb_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 1​

This first picture works well for a spot overlooking a wonderful stretch of water. Why not tell us about the place. Do you have a link so we can zoom down to the boats. Also can we zoom in on the people on each side?



cadaquesh_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 2​



This second picture from Catalonia also gives us a view of the water and boats in the distance. unless one can zoom, where is the interest? This appears to be a planar projection and I'm wondering if there was more to see n a cylindrical version?


garrigaolivesd_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 3​



This landscape can easilly seduce one to take massive panoramas, trying to capture everything in one go. Is this with a panohead of some sort or else freehand? I really wonder about trimming the lower cm as it's distracting.



galiciac_800.jpg


Valentin Affire: Pano 4​

This last pano is very light and easy to appreciate as a restful quiet place, although it has no prettiness. It's a challenge to deal with leaves, but you have done a pretty good job here.



If you could introduce and place the others in the same way, it would be greatly appreciated. Pictures here are prettier than links alone. We can always handle 800 pixel wide pitures!

Asher
 
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Valentin Arfire

New member
hello friends, all are mercator.

Lazy as I am, I used the equirectangular as source and only changed the projection.
Normally I should have used the original pictures and stitch them from the beginning - for this I would create the panoramas for large panoramas and surely sharper with the colors better balanced. I intended to chose 2 or 4 for some extended A3 prints (15x48 cm).

Regarding the mercator projection here you may find the mathematical explanations and comparisons with the rest
http://wiki.panotools.org/Projections#Mercator_projection

I used it because somehow it is more realistic

Nicholas, you are right the first two are from Cadaques

the third one is from Galicia, it is an old mill sometime last july

the fourth has no sea - it is from an orchad of olives near La Garriga - Catalonia

the fifth - is from La Roca - a bird sanctuary - Catalonia - Spain

the sixth - Barcelona view from Montjuic

the seventh - Sagrada Familia - the Passion entrance

the eighth - Sagrada Familia - view from the park

the ninth - the Tibidabo monastery with the sky over Barcelona

thank you for your time

for the Cadaques ones, here you may see the spherical panoramas
http://valentin.europhoto.ro/KRPANO/index.html
 
Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I'm having an enjoyable time looking at your spherical Panos. I noticed on the base that you obtained a license to photograph on a tripod in public places. Is that just needed in spain or is it in other European countries too? Where does one get the license and how diffucult is that and cost? Can one get the via the internet?

Asher
 
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Valentin Arfire

New member
I got it for using a tripod - is necesary only in Barcelona (if you ask of it) and I got it from Catalonia film Commision; from the "Guardia Civil" I think there could be another permit. But I've seen other people in Barcelona taking pictures with no problems. I guess is possible to obtain it directly from them : http://w10.bcn.es/APPS/bplentitat/en/html/InfoFaqEn.html

I asked for the permit with no profit - was working to set up a portfolio, so I had to pay nothing for it - the kind lady there got it for me in 3-4 days. For the permit to take pictures with the tripod in parks, gardens and beaches I waited one week, but some weekends were there.

Except Catalonia I seldom have encountered this problem restrictions of photography in public places - is a shame; I have wrote to a Liberty of Press commission of the European Parliament and they said that indeed there was necesary to have a permit to use a tripod in Barcelona. No other explanations were given...

If there are signs to forbid the photography or if there are banks closer than 50 meters, indeed are restrictions in Romania too. From what I was told in United Kingdom is even worse (will tell you more next year since the 2010 Panotools meeting is there and we'll have to confront this).
 
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Valentin Arfire

New member
2 more

Pano from the mountains in the North of Spain

alt_puig-800.jpg

Alt Puig - near Figueras ; only 400 meters altitude but the scenery is breathtaking​


Could you look at your impressive panorama and see what are the special features you like most? This is a challenge that often baffles me after I come home with my panorama. I love the hut and the patches of green land.

Would you ever consider moving the cloud from the left inwards or the stones on the right a little inwards as if your position and timing was somewhat different.

Asher
 
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Tim Armes

New member
Valentin Arfire said:
here are some photos
projection Mercator;
except LaRoca (which was rotated) the only intervention was a crop
please tell me what you think of them
Click to expand...

Hi Valentin,

I don't tend to critique much on OPF for a very simple reason - a critique can only be valuable if we understand the intent, and most photographers don't tend to give that.

For example, if you're asking us if your Mercator projections are technically successful then I'd say that then certainly are. The merging process has been very successful.

If you're intension is to show us new places and introduce us to your region, then you've done a great job.

If you're asking whether then generate an emotional response then this will very from person to person. For me personally the images lack soul.

I suspect that you are looking for a critique on the aesthetic. If this is your question then I'd say that for me the lighting it simply far too uninteresting - all the images are taken in harse day-time sunlight, there's no mood. Also, I'm not keen on the people looking at the camera - if you're trying to photograph a spectacular view then why are they looking at you rather than it?

Tim
 
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Valentin Arfire

New member
thank you very much for your words.
I am trying to understand and learn
this forum provides lots of knowledge and I am sure my work as well as my understanding of the photographic phenomenon will improve.

thank you for your interest and time
 
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Valentin Arfire

New member
the same pictures resampled:

http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/Vall_de_Nuria_take2.jpg

http://valentin.europhoto.ro/fotovest/expo/alt_Puig_take2.jpg

The details I like the most in the Vall de Nuria pictures is the small size of the railway, the touristic resort and the artificial lake compared to the mountains with that generous light

Regarding Alt Puig: the details of the town, the light and the richness of the landscape, for me was really interesting; "the hut" is actually a tumul of 6000 years and on a near cliff there are 3 spheres - the West Mediterranean NATO radars, but indeed they tend to just vanish in the landscape;

my landscape indeed contains few people :( as for the Angels, I could see only the clouds...
 
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Michael Fontana

pro member
to mercator or not to mercator:

this depends much on the subject, and what you' ve in the top or bottom parth of the pano. I sometimes render the preview of different projections, just to have a good comparison and for the choice of the big one.

Most people are not familiar with these 360 deg, but flat panos, as it shows them a different view than they' re used to see.

Tim introduced a good question into panorama photography: the quality of light.

While its much harder to ge a fine light on a pano than a photo - the pano will display instantly aereas with difficult light situations as we have the look into the sun, and away from the sun - in the same picture: contrast is often enhanced, in the scenery of a pano.

But then, if these panos beeing a sphere and seen interactivly, the light has a important role, but it hasn't the same value as in photography.
 
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