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It has been a while since I posted anything and I thought I would share a recent image of a bumble bee (species unknown) on a dahlia bloom.

SPE36229_20070808_1.jpg


Anyway, comments and criticism are most welcome as always.

cheers,

Sean
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
I like the picture Sean!

Was this hand held? You picked an ISO of 100 which has perhaps more noise than ISO 160 yet your speed was just 1/200 which for a live bee would seem a little slow. However, I do not even own a 100mm Macro lens and have not managed to get such a well-framed picture! Even then, ISO 320 would give perhaps a sharper image and allow for flower sway. Still I can see that your bee is remarkably sharp! This is very impressive.

The hairs are so clearly demonstrated. I wonder if there is a function of the hairs beyond carrying pollen. Maybe the hairs increase the buoyancy of the bee by increasing its volume at little cost in weight. Also with more hair, it could function longer as autumn approaches and temperatures drop.

Do you think we are seeing pollen all over the petals giving a somewhat rough appearance or is this a sharpening or JPG artifact?

I'm getting closer to getting one of these magic lenses! Either this or a Sigma.

Thanks for sharing. We still have enough warm weather for these pollinators. I hope they are not yet Africanized, although I understand the honey is even better!

Asher
 

Don Lashier

New member
As always Sean - nice shot!

Asher, I suspect the ISO 100 was to get DOF, and 1/200 is fine for an insect at rest (again to get DOF).

And yes, the Canon 100mm macro is one of my favorite lenses.

- DL
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Thanks for the clarification Don, however, a higher ISO would allow a smaller aperture and hence DOF. Now I'm not sure about the EXIF which shows "Aperture Value" of 7.7 yet f stop as 14.0!!!! Is that real? F14 would surprise me as that would hit against the diffraction effect of the edges of the shutter opening.

Tell me about this. Do they mean exposure value?

Asher
 

Don Lashier

New member
> a higher ISO would allow a smaller aperture and hence DOF.

Yikes, you're right Asher. That's what happens when I post first thing in the morning!

- DL
 
I like the picture Sean!
Merci Asher. <smile>
Was this hand held? You picked an ISO of 100 which has perhaps more noise than ISO 160 yet your speed was just 1/200 which for a live bee would seem a little slow. However, I do not even own a 100mm Macro lens and have not managed to get such a well-framed picture! Even then, ISO 320 would give perhaps a sharper image and allow for flower sway. Still I can see that your bee is remarkably sharp! This is very impressive.
Thanks again. I was in Seattle a month ago and had some time to kill and I stopped by the Conservatory to see what was blooming. When I checked out the dahlias out of doors on a warm but mostly cloudy day I found one cultivar in perfect condition and that is where the bees were going and resting when too tired to move on. i.e., the shot was there for anyone with gear and technique.

Now I should remind people I am a technical shooter and craft shots rather than worrying about finding them (i.e., if I need light I add it or move twigs, needles, and leaves as needed). So since I happened upon the perfect scene I went to the car, grabbed my camera, put the Lumiquest Softbox* on the 550 EX, set the camera to AI Servo autofocus mode**, put the camera in M mode a 1/200 @ f/14, mount the flash, and start stalking my prey.

I call the technique Daylight Fill. It is similar to dragging the shutter but is focused upon getting highly detailed shots of tiny subjects in direct sun or on a cloudy day. It is the opposite of using fill flash as the flash is dominant and daylight is simply used to control the color of the areas of defocus/boke.

The aperture f/14 is a value I came to through experimentation on the eyes of a dragon fly which stayed stationary for 20 minutes for me on a cloudy day. Past f/14 the EF 100/2.8 USM Macro has serious loss of detail from diffraction. At wider apertures too much DoF is lost for my vision of the scene to be realized.***

This ISO of 100 was used as I find it has the least noise on the Rebel XT sensor. Without flash I use ISO 200 or ISO 400. But with exposures exceeding 1 second noise becomes prominent above ISO 100 (noisy skies rather than smooth creamy defocus).



* A 4x8 inch Velcro mounted softbox.

** AI Servo mode (Canon) is thought of as sports/action tracking mode. But for me I think of it as IS for forwards and backwards shake during handheld macros. This is unlike how I have heard VR fails at higher magnifications on the new Nikon 100 mm macro.

*** One exception with the F 100/2.8 USM Macro is that at 1:1 f/10 has better detail for non-frame-filling subjects as there is too much diffraction at f/14 at that scale.

The hairs are so clearly demonstrated. I wonder if there is a function of the hairs beyond carrying pollen. Maybe the hairs increase the buoyancy of the bee by increasing its volume at little cost in weight. Also with more hair, it could function longer as autumn approaches and temperatures drop.
My understanding, not being an entomologist, is that the hairs serve many purposes. They can collect pollen on purpose, albeit that is usually stored intentionally in the pollen baskets on the rear pair of legs (I can find an example image if needed). Hence I suspect the pollen on the hairs serves a larger ecosystem purpose of pollinating the blooms.

The hairs also serve as insulation. Some species are dependent upon insolation**** (direct sunlight) to warm up enough to have the energy to use their flight muscles. Other species can actually exercise their flight muscles pre-flight to warm up enough to have the energy to fly. Hence the extra insulation can extend the length of time during a diurnal cycle in which they can work. So not only can that get a longer working season, they also got longer working days.

**** Note the 'sol' in insolation which stands for out star, Sol, commonly called the Sun.

Do you think we are seeing pollen all over the petals giving a somewhat rough appearance or is this a sharpening or JPG artifact?

I save fairly high quality JPEGs using Save As (quality 8) in PS rather than Save For Web so those details are pollen or pistils/stamens and not artifacts. i.e.,

SPE36229_20070808_1_detail.jpg


I'm getting closer to getting one of these magic lenses! Either this or a Sigma.

Thanks for sharing. We still have enough warm weather for these pollinators. I hope they are not yet Africanized, although I understand the honey is even better!

Asher

Thanks again. No worry about them getting Africanized. The aggressive dominant gene of Africanized honey bees only affects Apis meliflura (sic) the European Honey Bee. This gene does not affect the thousands (millions?) of other bee species.

As to the lens, I am very fond of it. It is even viable on a 1.6 crop sensor as an intimate portrait lens (not busts, but details of faces without the top of the head and such. The boke is occasionally off, but that is in a rather limited range of defocus distance from the plane of focus and the rest is nice and creamy.

As always Sean - nice shot!

Asher, I suspect the ISO 100 was to get DOF, and 1/200 is fine for an insect at rest (again to get DOF).

Thanks Don.

ISO 100 was for noise, the flash was for DoF (f/14), and the 1/200 is the x-sync speed.


all the best,

Sean
 
I can't help with criticism. As with the majority of photos here, it's stunning.

Thanks.

When I find some more time*, I will post some good looking failures and note why the shots failed to achieve my full vision as I have thousands of such. The reason for this is that the half difference between a good photographer and a great photographer is in learning what to show others rather than just having better skills behind the lens.

enjoy your day,

Sean


* I am making time solely for friends and tools that will help me make more time for life as I have been too busy.
 
Very nice Sean! Did you chase the little buggers or did you set up and wait for them?

I found them hanging about on the sole blooms in perfect condition, went back to the car, got camera and flash set up, and then I chased the little beauties. I get bored with the whole waiting for bugs scheme when modern lighting tools will let me stalk them.

all the best,

Sean
 
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