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  • Welcome to the new site. Here's a thread about the update where you can post your feedback, ask questions or spot those nasty bugs!

Welcome the 14 BIT self-cleaning 2x RAW 1D Mark III!

Paul Bestwick

pro member
Well, random noise hides it if the random noise is higher. That's why you don't see the line-banding in shadows on some other brands of DSLRs that use CCDs, at higher ISOs; they have more random 2D noise, which hides the patterned noises. If you actually extract a map of the banding offsets, however, the CCD cameras can actually have stronger banding.



Certainly many should be implemented as an option. There is no point in a converter wasting CPU cycles looking for unequal amplification patterns on a camera that doesn't show them, or in shots where they don't matter, but it is actually a very simple process. All the converter really has to do is sample the average green value for each line, and detect a pattern, and then scale the values in the lines (red and blue, too), preferably at a higher bit depth (or the depth is already deeper than necessary, as seems to be the case with the 1DmkIII). The value in being able to turn a feature like that off is that you may have taken an almost perfectly regristrated exposure of actual lines, and the feature would weaken them. Even with the slightest angle, however, the lines should be safe.

There may be some amplifier sag in that "portrait.jpg" camera; it's hard to tell without seeing the RAW. That would probably require some profiling, to see how the amplifier reacts to a real B/W edge, and base corrections upon it. ANd really, if you want maximum quality from any camera's RAW files, the converter should know all of its repeatable flaws. The converter could ask you to take several shots of a smooth wall or card, completely out of focus, and use their common artifacts for a flat-field adjustment. It could ask you to take a sharp shot of a big black square on a white background, to see if the amplifiers sag. Individual errant pixels could have their unique sensitivities mapped, etc, etc.

I find it rather sad that almost all post-processing of RAW shots is after conversion. Artifacts are so much more distinct in the RAW state; waiting until after conversion to remove them is like dropping a chocolate bar into a pot of soup, and instead of just removing the chocolate as quickly as possible, letting it melt and stirring it in.

If I could run something like Filtermeister from ACR, and run it on the RAW data just after decompression, I'd be a very happy camper.

I gotta tell you guys...........as an everyday shooter (weddings, portrait etc) I barely even see these issues. I realize of course that what you are saying is correct & these factors exist. For me though my tolerances are very wide & many of the sins of digital are disguised. I spend most of my time degrading the image even further by blurring, adding noise etc. I can see though that for other pros in different fields the shortcomings would seriously impact the quality of the final image. The fact that there are guys such as yourselves who question the boundaries of the medium can only be good for its overall developement

Paul
 

Ferenc Harmat

New member
That is precisely why...

I gotta tell you guys...........as an everyday shooter (weddings, portrait etc) I barely even see these issues.

Correct. Now, it all depends on how much you work and push an image to achieve the tonal/chroma/spatial result (or combination of) that you seek to obtain. It is during these stages of work where you can actually see "who is who", where all sorts of issues arise (if they are there) or not.

The fact that there are guys such as yourselves who question the boundaries of the medium can only be good for its overall developement.

Yes, indeed. It is because of a combination of folks like you, as well as folks like us that we have, today, the 1D Mark III.

How's that?... :)
 
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