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While on holidays - Spanish night… 2

nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Tonight…
1Ds3 - 24-70 @ 24mm - ISO 800

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Kathy Rappaport

pro member
Love the Costa del Luna...(Coast of the Moon for those of you who don't know that the area is called Costa del Sol - Coast of the Sun) Muy Linda, Mi Amigo.
 
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StuartRae

New member
Hi Nicolas,

Beautiful colours. I hope the guy with the guitar has a good head for heights - it looks a long way down.

I only had a severe Gout attack......
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Nothing to do with red wine of course............

Regards,

Stuart
 
nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Hi Stuart
The guy witht he guitar is Romain (my son), yes it's quite high and yes he got used to (remember all the helicopter shootings? ;-)

BTW I prefer white…
 
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Michael Fontana

pro member
Hi Nicolas

hoping you' re better now...

and enjoying the holidays. Niice moods on that shot and you picket le bon moment, with the moon...

Any chances to see a sample with less bright pool, and shirt, off course? My eyes move from it to the moon and back, now.
 
nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Michael Fontana said:
Hi Nicolas

hoping you' re better now...

and enjoying the holidays. Niice moods on that shot and you picket le bon moment, with the moon...

Any chances to see a sample with less bright pool, and shirt, off course? My eyes move from it to the moon and back, now.
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Hi Michael
yes getting better, almost ready to go back to work! LoL!

I'll see if I can work a lesser bright pool, but this was a really huge high dynamic range (more than 12 stops ;-)

My eyes move from it to the moon and back, now
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Well I'm sure if Romain had been a nice looking women… your eyes may do a stop… ;)
 
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Michael Fontana

pro member
Nicolas Claris said:
Hi Michael
yes getting better, almost ready to go back to work! LoL!
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you might wait a few days, just to make sure ;-)

I'll see if I can work a lesser bright pool, but this was a really huge high dynamic range (more than 12 stops ;-)
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how can you tell? - it's already a montage of several RAWconversions or even exposures?
I don't think the 1 Ds-3 has 12 f-stops... I might be wrong though


Well I'm sure if Romain had been a nice looking women… your eyes may do a stop… ;)
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Romana, is that her name? ;-)

joke beside, the figure while beeing bright is a part of the pool - imagewise.
BTW: In two day's we' ll have full moon.. that might be spectacular at the sea...
 
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nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Michael Fontana said:
how can you tell? …I don't think the 1 Ds-3 has 12 f-stops... I might be wrong though
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As far as I remember having read, the 1Ds3 DR is about 9 stops… maybe Bart knows exactly?
Anyway they are ways to increase that DR…;-)

Full moon? yes we're already waiting for that!
 
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Kathy Rappaport

pro member
Costa del Luna

Sorry to hear you had a gout attack on Holiday!

I knew that you were not at the Costa del Sol. The Costa del Luna was my name for your photograph...a play on the Spanish Coast. I have been to the Costa Blanca on my last trip to Spain. It's very beautiful.
 
nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Kathy Rappaport said:
Sorry to hear you had a gout attack on Holiday!

I knew that you were not at the Costa del Sol. The Costa del Luna was my name for your photograph...a play on the Spanish Coast. I have been to the Costa Blanca on my last trip to Spain. It's very beautiful.
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Too much Jamon Iberico and white whine, too many gambas on a tired body, et voilà!

Eating vegies, tablets, drinking water and after a few injections, I'm almost a new man! (ok, almost only ;-)

I did like your naming of Costa del Luna, it's really like this these days (as Michael mentionned, we're getting close to fool moon!) but you mentionned by mistake or too fast writing, Costa del Sol instead on Blanca… why Blanca by the way? will have to do a Google on that if no one has the answer…
 
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Michael Fontana

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yep Nicolas

I like that version much better, the image °rolls° better, its Romain now, and I don't look in that left corner anymore. I realise the importance oft the clouds now - before, they were just in the image.
 
nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Winston Mitchell said:
My problem with this version is that the halos have become more prominent to the point that, for me, they have become a distraction.
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Bonjour Winston
Which halo are you reffering to?
Do you mean thin sharpening halos on the circonference of water in the pool and on the border between the pool and the sea?
I have produced and see this image on a laptop screen and don't see any other halo. That does dont mean that they aren't!
can you help and precise?
Thanks!
 
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Bart_van_der_Wolf

pro member
Nicolas Claris said:
As far as I remember having read, the 1Ds3 DR is about 9 stops… maybe Bart knows exactly?
Anyway they are ways to increase that DR…;-)
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Yes I know, but it does depend on a number of variables such as the ISO, exposure time, temperature, and one's definition of DR (I use the general engineering definition).

I measured under optimal normal conditions (ISO 100, short exposure times and 20 degrees Celcius) a DR of ~11.3 stops for a single exposure with the 1Ds3. The analysis can be found here. At ISO 400 the DR has dropped to 11 stops, at ISO 800 it drops to 10.4 stops, at ISO 1600 it's 9.6 stops. These number of stops are the maximum one could reach, but expect the least exposed areas to be relatively noisy.

Caveat, I based these findings on a sample of 1 camera, my own. I don't know if other units vary...

Of course there are possibilities to reduce noise levels even further, by stacking and e.g. averaging multiple exposures, or by creating variable exposure HDR files. One can also mimick higher DR by exposure blending and tonemapping techniques.

Bart
 
nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Bart_van_der_Wolf said:
It's probably the result of downsampling. Photoshop doesn't do that correctly.

Bart
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Yep, I can see it on the 100% crop here, certainly due to a too quick sharpening on the full res and then again on the downsampling + small over 'smart' sharpening…

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Asher Kelman

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
While on holidays - waiting for the fool moon…

Well,

Now I know not to correct your spelling having read of Michael's comments suggesting the term. I always have some peur on seeing folk sitting chatting or playing on such a wall. They do that on the wall around the old city of Jerusalem and kids run over even loose stone and skip along like mountain goats! I was up their and my small light meter, (an analog Sekonic), and I just left it there as I was too scared to turn around and bend down and pick it up!

In Florence, (Firenze), as the sun sets making the water golden and on fire, teenagers play guitar and picnic, dangerously, on the edge of the tall stone columns on the bridge facing the Ponte Veccio.

So I expect I'd feel just as worried to see Romain sitting on the ledge like that!

Still, the view must be thrilling. It's a case of being able to live on the edge and risk everything and enjoy nature!

So this picture is on the edge of beauty!

Asher
 
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nicolas claris

nicolas claris

OPF Co-founder/Administrator
Bart_van_der_Wolf said:
Yes I know, but it does depend on a number of variables such as the ISO, exposure time, temperature, and one's definition of DR (I use the general engineering definition).

I measured under optimal normal conditions (ISO 100, short exposure times and 20 degrees Celcius) a DR of ~11.3 stops for a single exposure with the 1Ds3. The analysis can be found here. At ISO 400 the DR has dropped to 11 stops, at ISO 800 it drops to 10.4 stops, at ISO 1600 it's 9.6 stops. These number of stops are the maximum one could reach, but expect the least exposed areas to be relatively noisy.

Caveat, I based these findings on a sample of 1 camera, my own. I don't know if other units vary...

Of course there are possibilities to reduce noise levels even further, by stacking and e.g. averaging multiple exposures, or by creating variable exposure HDR files. One can also mimick higher DR by exposure blending and tonemapping techniques.

Bart
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Thanks Bart,
I love your precision!

As the shot were done at 800 ISO, I may easily say that the scene DR was more than 12 stops (I even didn't catch it all - see the moon…)
 
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