London's Statues & Monuments #6

[Paul Abbott]

This is William Tyndale*, currently residing in Whitehall Gardens, in the borough of Westminster.

Paul Abbott William Tyndale - Whitehall Gardens, London '10 #6​

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

 

[Mike Shimwell]

Paul

I'm trying to walk around this in my mind to see if there is a better way to place the foreground tree. As I return to it though I do like the way it frames William and encloses him in his half of the frame.

The vapour trail is a bit of a pity in this one - bring back the ash!

MIke

 

[Asher Kelman]

Paul

I'm trying to walk around this in my mind to see if there is a better way to place the foreground tree. As I return to it though I do like the way it frames William and encloses him in his half of the frame.

The vapour trail is a bit of a pity in this one - bring back the ash!

MIke

Mike given the sort distance between the tree and the statue, and the leverage of parallax for moving things nearer us, it would have been easy for Paul to place that tree in so many other places. I cannot imagine that it's happenstance.

Paul, I also don't get a feeling for your choice of where that tree is! I personally have no qualms at moving trees and in this case, CS5 content aware capability, would rebuild the b.g, easily. One could then place the tree perfectly, whatever that might mean!

Asher

Asher

 

[Mike Shimwell]

Mike given the sort distance between the tree and the statue, and the leverage of parallax for moving things nearer us, it would have been easy for Paul to place that tree in so many other places. I cannot imagine that it's happenstance.

Paul, I also don't get a feeling for your choice of where that tree is! I personally have no qualms at moving trees and in this case, CS5 content aware capability, would rebuild the b.g, easily. One could then place the tree perfectly, whatever that might mean!

Asher

Asher

Hi Asher

I wasn't suggesting that the tree placement was an error, just that I was working my way around the thinking. I thought about standing in front of it and I think the picture is stronger paul has framed it.

I don't think I would take out the vapour trail if it were mine, but everyone to his own

Mike

 

[Ruben Alfu]

Hi Paul,

Love it. I find this photo very moving. A sillouete of Mr. Tyndale (isolation, distress, danger), a ramification (a point of division, growth), steam in the sky... well... I can´t help feeling tempted to crop out the bottom half of this photo.

 

[Asher Kelman]

Hi Paul,

Love it. I find this photo very moving. A sillouete of Mr. Tyndale (isolation, distress, danger), a ramification (a point of division, growth), steam in the sky... well... I can´t help feeling tempted to crop out the bottom half of this photo.

The bottom half, Ruben! Look to the left, my good friend. That curvaceous tree is important, IMHO, in balancing the hard square stone mass of the plinth on which Mr Tyndale is standing.

Yes, one might be able to remove a tad of the base but not at the expense of the tree stand on the left. At least that's my $0.02!

Still your close examination of the composition helps challenge us to realize the worth of things that Paul has selected to be in his picture.

Asher

 

[Ruben Alfu]

The bottom half, Ruben! Look to the left, my good friend. That curvaceous tree is important, IMHO, in balancing the hard square stone mass of the plinth on which Mr Tyndale is standing.

Yes, one might be able to remove a tad of the base but not at the expense of the tree stand on the left. At least that's my $0.02!

Still your close examination of the composition helps challenge us to realize the worth of things that Paul has selected to be in his picture.

Asher

Well Asher, I'm caught by the idea of meaning being explored on this series. Perhaps I'm missing something about the importance of the location of this statue but I only see an aesthetic value in that garden in the bg. I would sacrifice that to put more muscle into the statue-tree relation.

 

[Paul Abbott]

Thanks very much for the comments, everyone.

I deliberately composed the tree in the scene that way. I like the disparate nature of this tree and the vapour trail in the scene.
Also, having been aware of what happened to William Tyndale I thought that maybe it could work as an implied reference/ echo of his death at the stake, no? Can such a thing work in a photo?

Regards.

 

[Asher Kelman]

Thanks very much for the comments, everyone.

I deliberately composed the tree in the scene that way. I like the disparate nature of this tree and the vapour trail in the scene.
Also, having been aware of what happened to William Tyndale I thought that maybe it could work as an implied reference/ echo of his death at the stake, no? Can such a thing work in a photo?

Regards.

Make the tree entirely white just the color of the trail. You will have a crucifix.

Asher

 

[Paul Abbott]

Oh dear, what is that supposed to mean?!

 

[Asher Kelman]

Thanks very much for the comments, everyone.

I deliberately composed the tree in the scene that way. I like the disparate nature of this tree and the vapour trail in the scene.
Also, having been aware of what happened to William Tyndale I thought that maybe it could work as an implied reference/ echo of his death at the stake, no? Can such a thing work in a photo?

Regards.

Make the tree entirely white just the color of the trail. You will have a crucifix.

Oh dear, what is that supposed to mean?!

Paul,

Sorry to be obscure! Let me explain my thinking.

You referenced implied reference to death. So why not have a ghost of a tree intersect with the ghost of passageway in the sky and one has the elements of a cross, suggesting tragic sacrifice.

Not such a far-fetched notion, perhaps?

Asher

 

[Paul Abbott]

I certainly don't intend on doing anything like that, Asher.

 

[Asher Kelman]

I don't see any need to change the picture! Just musing on the fate of Tyndale!

As it is, it requires no change but the discussion reopens my interest on him and his detractors.

For sure he was sacrificed, (strangled and burnt at the stake) because of his devotion to the concept of Christ coming to the individual people on the earth. What's ironic is that just a few years after his translation of the Bible from original Hebrew and Greek led to his seizure in Belgium and martyrdom-like death, the unthinkable happened.

Henry the VIII, in 1538, published The Great Bible, largely based on Tyndale's fatal translations! What tragic and stupid irony! I was amazed to discover today the role of Thomas More in stirring up vile hatred against Tyndale as an "Heretic" deserving nothing but to be burned at the stake! Looks like Thomas More, (I thought it was spelled Thomas Moore) did more than write Utopia!).

Asher

 

[Paul Abbott]

I found this guy's history to be really interesting. I'd like to seek out those films, too.