Fuji GFX Camera FujiFILM GFX is going after Full Frame & smaller camera users

[Doug Kerr]

Hi, Murray

.. If you just shoot RAW, you get an uncropped RAW file and I think cannot select the different aspect ratios (though I have not tried that).

I first note that to get an output file (JPEG,TIFF, etc.) that has a different aspect ratio than that of the taken frame is perforce a "crop" operation.

I actually have no experience with this, and I do not use any processing software that provides for raw development, so this is all based on intuition and a bit of Internet research.

But it is my understanding (albeit perhaps in error) that in raw development software, when one opens a raw file (where that was the only output taken from the camera), one can crop the image that will then be delivered as a JPEG, TIFF, etc. file.

In effect, if no "crop" mode was in effect in the camera (one not being able to set such if the output mode is set to raw only), in effect the "preferred crop" set in the metadata of the raw file is "entire frame" (that is, not a "crop" at all).

So when that raw file is opened in a program that provides for raw development, the initial "crop" setting is "entire frame"., and if we do nothing the delivered JPEG or TIFF output will include the entire taken frame. But in general one can call for a different crop situation for the image that will be delivered as a JPEG or TIFF file.

But again this is all conjecture from a "drugstore cowboy"!

I think Asher and many others here have actual experience with this, and perhaps one of them can straighten me out.

Best regards,

Doug

 

[Asher Kelman]

I have shot tens of thousands of GFX images but haven’t even looked on the menu for cropping in advance.

Composing in advance I always doing my mind but then I assume any landscape might be viewed and composed differently if I was further away, so I almost always also shoot overlapping pictures to each side and above.

That way I can stitch and then recompose. It might be a fraction of thr first frame or a part of the entire stitched super wide picture made up of many frames.

By contrast, folk like Nicolas Claris, frame the picture as they intend to show it. If need be he flies in a helicopter routinely for the shot perspective he wants!

Asher

 

[Asher Kelman]

I did a search:

“In-Camera Cropping Options​

Both the Fujifilm GFX 50S and GFX 100S offer in-camera cropping features. You can change the aspect ratio directly through the camera settings. The GFX series allows you to select from various aspect ratios, including:

• 4:3 (native)
• 3:2
• 16:9
• 1:1
• 65:24

35mm Format Mode​

Additionally, both models have a "35mm Format Mode." This mode crops the image to match the dimensions of a 35mm negative, which is useful when using full-frame lenses. When activated, this mode will adjust the image size accordingly, providing a different resolution compared to the standard aspect ratios.

Image Quality Considerations​

While cropping in-camera can help with composition, it’s important to note that cropping does not change the sensor size; it simply alters the output. The GFX sensors produce high-resolution images, allowing for significant cropping while maintaining image quality.

In summary, both the GFX 50S and GFX 100S support in-camera cropping through various aspect ratios and modes, enhancing your creative options while shooting.“

Asher

 

[Asher Kelman]

Image Saving Behavior When Cropping in Fujifilm GFX 50S and 100S​

When you select a cropped frame in the Fujifilm GFX 50S or 100S, the images are not saved as cropped files in the RAW format. Instead, the camera applies the selected crop for framing purposes.

Details on Image Saving​

• RAW Images: The full resolution RAW file is saved, preserving all original data. The crop is only a visual aid during shooting and does not affect the saved file.
• JPEG Images: If you save the image as a JPEG while a crop frame is selected, it will save the JPEG according to the cropped area you selected.

This means you can always revert to the full image for any post-processing when working with RAW files, while JPEG files will reflect the cropped view.

 

[Doug Kerr]

Hi, Asher,

Image Saving Behavior When Cropping in Fujifilm GFX 50S and 100S​

When you select a cropped frame in the Fujifilm GFX 50S or 100S, the images are not saved as cropped files in the RAW format. Instead, the camera applies the selected crop for framing purposes.

Details on Image Saving​

• RAW Images: The full resolution RAW file is saved, preserving all original data. The crop is only a visual aid during shooting and does not affect the saved file.
• JPEG Images: If you save the image as a JPEG while a crop frame is selected, it will save the JPEG according to the cropped area you selected.

This means you can always revert to the full image for any post-processing when working with RAW files, while JPEG files will reflect the cropped view.

I suspect that the corresponding is true for the GFX 100RF as well.

Best regards,

Doug

 

[Asher Kelman]

Hi, Asher,

I suspect that the corresponding is true for the GFX 100RF as well.

Best regards,

Doug

It makes sense as for a lot of us with high MP cameras, composition starts over when sitting by the computer monitor and realizing all that’s actually in the scene that one might not have noticed.

For myself, I always have the option of getting a composition from a position 100ft behind me, as I stitch adjacent overlapping frames as I explore new possibilities.

Still, I have the greatest respect for those photographers who absolutely know what they need to deliver and they frame only what’s required. My dear friend Nicolas Claris is in that category and no doubt our valued Robert Watchers did that in his long professional career.


Asher

 

[Doug Kerr]

Hi,Asher,

For myself, I always have the option of getting a composition from a position 100ft behind me, as I stitch adjacent overlapping frames as I explore new possibilities.

If indeed your software is able to relocate the positions in the composite frame of objects.

I suspect that modern AI-based software can do that for us.

Best regards,

Doug

 

[Murray Foote]

Just to be clear. if you shoot RAW (+ JPEG) with the RF, when you open the file in Lightroom of Capture One you see only the cropped image. However, if you open the crop tool, the full image is available to crop in any way you choose.

If you are shooting landscape, composing for an in-camera crop is not the same as cropping in post-production. Anyone who has shot something like 6x17 film would appreciate this. Composing precisely in camera may lead you to photograph from a different angle or distance, or more carefully study the relationship between the elements of the image. Composing accurately for the in-camera crop will never be a handicap and will often lead to a better composition.

The same should apply to street photography but I've been testing out the RF for live music and with dynamic situations it is a different ball game.

There are three ways you can see a crop in camera with the RF. You can see the cropped image against a black background which makes it very clear for composition. However, there is a lever for digitally cropping that you can easily hit. You can end up with an image that is accidentally cropped so I quickly stopped using that option. I use the option
where you see the whole frame and the crop is outlined with a white line. You can also have the area outside the crop frame grayed out, which might be useful photographing against a white wall, but I have yet to use that.

With live music where the action is dynamic, I will have an indicative crop but the action may be too fast to change it so I expect to crop in post-production.

Here is an example. I have rotated the image and cropped it in post production. The action was too fast to contemplate the correct rotation of the image in camera though perhaps an artistic circular blur might have been interesting. I also decided against specifying a circular crop in camera. At least one of the reasons for that is likely to have been that, perhaps due to an oversight on Fuji's part, the camera does not offer a circular crop.


where I see the full frame and the crop shows as