Maybe we should wait and see what happens during the next solar cycle. We wouldn’t want to jump to any rash conclusions based on ideology.We should stop the blame games and come forward together to save these bird species and overall humanity from global warming. The leaders should not play anymore, but take effective initiatives to reduce carbon emissions. The developed nations should take the lead here and of course others should follow them.
Antonio,Or a more serious nuclear accident... or even a nuclear war !
A great link, James. Much appreciated.Circle of Poison
This short documentary for those interested.
Circle of Poison spans the US, India, Argentina, Mexico and Bhutan, with a wide range of interviews with activists in these countries, the people affected by crop-spraying, and experts and key figures who have led the fight against pesticides, including former US President Jimmy Carter, Patrick Leahy, Noam Chomsky and Vandana Shiva. The documentary is an important look at how dangerous pesticides have been imposed on developing countries and how people are now fighting back.
See the video at the link below.
Yes after we burn it all up we will go back to living in caves in a blink of an eye. Image what your world will look like without any petroleum based products, without a keyboard to type on?Common sense dictates that products designed to kill insects are poisons. Just as it digging out and burning carbons which have been hidden in the ground for 200 millions years all in a matter of decades is unlikely to be without any consequences.
AsherIs it possible to have a stock exchange firing up the economy, but only growth is health and “good life” of people but steady state of sustainable, eco-friendly replacement.
Do we need to have billions more people and increases in sales of building cranes, cars, universities football stadiums and engineers?
Muslims, and there are so many, Catholics and other fundamentalists won’t allow contraception or birth control.
Companies like population increases as it keeps markets high and labor costs low!
What is the solution besides war?
AsherOn the denial of the warningscon global warming:
I am not sure there’s an agenda. Certainly not of fairness to entire populations.
There is a political mechanism of recruitment that leveraged the ideas that we belong to a group that is inherently superior.
It might simply be a religious, Reagan, Le Pen or Trumpiam meme, so neither rational deduction and purpose is needed.
It’s obvious to Muslims that Mohammad, PUBH), is the last true prophet of God. Likewise it’s obvious to Catholics that the Pope is infallible or to Christians, that there is an actual real force of evil and that Jesus is the only path to redemptions and salvation.
Likewise it takes no contemplation to “know” that ideas of man-made global warming are invented by socialists to ruin economies!
These sets of absolute conviction are archaic mechanisms that worked for migrating communities, founding new settlements around the globe. If a meme “worked” the group survived. Then there were no other instruction books!
Now we suffer from collective overlapping delusions!:
Unfortunately, none of these are true!
- Growth is the fuel for progress
- We don’t have a global warming crisis
- Trickle down economics
- God won’t let the planet die
- If species die out then God has a better plan for us
But folk argue against reality!
James, even if we support one of these memes, we are in delusional!
In the meanwhile don’t sound off in a way that trivializes global warming or the ongoing massive die off of birds and insects!Asher
Soon robots will do everything for us, we will colonize the planet Mars and aliens will come and teach us how to live forever.
Facts and science are not about a majority as you imply.In the meanwhile don’t sound off in a way that trivializes global warming or the ongoing massive die off of birds and insects!
Not that you are the most powerful influencer around, just that we don’t need extra dismissive voices when we have already suffered unacceptable losses.
Trumps voice is more than enough.
These are facts.
It is a study of North American birds, based on a review of published bird counts going back to 1970, together with an interesting attempt to use radar data to count populations of nocturnal migrating birds over the last decade. Apart from the radar studies they did not do any direct data collection or data reduction themselves. These are amongst the best ways to count populations of birds we have but there are still many many known issues with bird counts.An accepted working figure is approximately 30% of bird species are threatened!
Thanks Peter! It is obvious that birds die for a number of reasons that can effect populations. One thing you don't here about is the fact that many rare birds are trapped illegally in places like Asia. Also I don't appreciate the hype and the inaccurate story that was originally presented here and among numerous other places across the internet.