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Why Wouldn't You Travel More When There Are So Many Benefits of Traveling?!

Antonio Correia

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4. Travel gives Culture and broads your horizons !

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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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Just consider the entire interacted design teams and work shops, machines that machine, bend, harden, miles of electric wires and self sealing gas tanks.

We take such things as flight for granted now.

But each depends on inventive genius, scholarship and endeavor by tens of thousands of individuals. The latter nurtured and schooled by loved ones and local schools and major universities.

This wing we fly on is collaboration on a massive scale by society.

Kudos to everyone!

Asher
 
Hello Comunity!

Here are some pictures from my travel to Zaragoza, a city in Spain located in the Autonomous Comunity of Aragan, an amazing place to try new food and watch different outstanding architecture, hope you like it ;)

This building is The Govern Congress Palace of Zaragoza.

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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Ignacio,

You have excelled! A surprising and delightful instruction to the architecture!

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What a wonderful way of bringing us into stunning new architecture. A unique curator!
 

Antonio Correia

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Asher, I think they are real graves. People pray on the tombs of ancestors while pouring they favourite drinks.
Asher, I think it is rather dangerous to travel these days. Why ? Because you fly for 10 or more hours inside a plane, because you can stay in a fantastic hotel on the 10th where the windows are completely closed and the air is the one which comes out the AC, because the car you are in has closed windows with AC on because of the heat, because if you get ill you may not have the necessary help, because ...
My wife and myself we have been over and over in dangerous places and dangerous situations but this time the risk is too big.
I want to cry ! :cautious:
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Michael Nagel

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Surely we can balance the methane by have lab grown meat and convert grazing land to forrest!
Well, lab grown meat is not available - I don't know where to buy any. We would need it in industrial quantities - yesterday - to reduce methane impact and make space for the forests...
For the forests, they are not as effective as thought , there is no simple answer.

For the record: I am adding this to help make infomed decisions.
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Michael,

I believe that economics, with giants like Johnson and Johnson invested in this technology, will eventually drive the technology to great efficiency.

I will try to find some lab grown hamburger for you, LOL. Likely it will be about $100 but worth the experience!

Meanwhile, vegetable-based burgers such has sold under the “Impossible” brand are creating the needed starter market for alternates to farmed beef.

I expect it will be no more than 10 years before lab cultured beef is produced on an industrial scale, likely first in Israel, which has the needed investment and science base and a sufficient high income market.

Also, kosher meat it will replace is already about 30% more expensive for Israeli consumers than the ordinary meat purchased in Europe and the USA.

Once the technical issue are solved, I can see new plants popping up close to every major city so that transportation costs are minimized.

In addition to reducing the carbon footprint, meat cultivation will provide thousands of new jobs distributed throughout all western societies very rapidly.

Countries relying on beef exports will have to diversify quickly and the land devoted to cattle will be repurposed as its value plummets! We need to think about the tragic consequences to such countries if we do not think about the problems that we will be creating!

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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Now to return with respect and awe to the wonderful photography of Antonio Correia, a great observer of people.

….and BTW, his wife is also an accomplished photographer and far more modest than I am boastful, 😂


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Antonio has a great eye for picking out denizens in scenes that seem uncluttered but show the social and economic reality of life.

What he presents is humanity in the matrix of problems and challenges these seemingly happy people have no choice but to face, day in, day out!

Asher
 

Jerome Marot

Well-known member
As usual, the reality is a bit more complex.

Air travel is actually quite efficient on long distance flights. Because the plane is usually full and cars less so, it uses less fuel than most cars per person per distance. It is just that people do not travel 10000 km per car: a travel by plane produces lots of CO2 because of the distance.
Planes are less efficient on smaller trips, because energy is needed to fly the plane up and is mostly loss when getting down. It follows that the first thing that should be done is replacing planes by train on smaller distances. China is doing so, Europe as well on a smaller scale. The USA are not.



As to meat, we can reduce our consumption without lab-grown meat by simply cooking like our grand-parents. They used half the meat and twice the vegetables, usually. Tastes good, too.
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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Jérôme,

So correct on meat portions. When I came to the USA and the meat was served to my place at the table, I looked at the huge piece of steak, counted the number of people at the table and proceeded to slice it up fairly for the needed portions for everyone.

To my astonishment, the waiters delivered the same huge steaks to everyone!!
 
A couple of comments,
One real beef tastes better than Impossible beef, I have tried both at the same meal, same cooking conditions and condiments. I may give it another try in a couple years, it was acceptable, but not as good.
Of course I am somewhat a beef snob in that I grew up with my grandfather owning a dairy farm and he would raise steers for meat on part of the dairy farm, grass fed, and then grain fed. Omaha beef is about as close as I can get to that, but that is way too pricey in my opinion.

If the composition were the same, based on my understanding of the science, I would be okay with lab grown beef, depending on the price.

As for travel, cost of travel is a factor, not just the environmental consideration.
I have been to quite a few countries (25) in my life (although one was at sea on a cruise for a full day so while technically in the country, only saw the coastline and two other was a drive or fly through) and all 50 states for at least one night.
My favorites have been Greece, Costa Rica, Jamaica, and Thailand, of the 25, did not have a camera for a lot of them because US Air Force deployment. With the exception of Chili, most are what I would call architectural tourist shots.

Some examples, these are ones on my ready archive drive so easier to find.

The first is of course Barcelona, Spain.
The second is Gibraltar
Third, Recife, Brazil
And of course the mandatory Parthenon Image from Athens, Greece
Trivia somewhere in my archives I also have a picture of the Parthenon outside of Nashville Tennessee.
 

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Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Fabulous examples of tourist dreams. I like them, especially the chimp!

Why as small attachments? I never knew one could do this trick you have pulled off!

Why not load thrn as full size images?

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
Small attachments is what the forum software defaults to for me. Each time I need to change it. Maybe this is account-specific, I do not know.
Please post using “attach files” and touch loaded image at top and it should give choice of icon versus full picture?

Is it that you don’t make a choice and these become “attachments” or are you using the menu above?

Asher
 

Asher Kelman

OPF Owner/Editor-in-Chief
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This gives the same option as click the “attach file” button with a choice of thumb or full picture!

Soni gave no ideas what yields “attachments”!

Asher
 
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